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Can anyone tell me anything about the rage three blade chisel tips?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Skylar oren, Sep 16, 2016.

  1. Marauder

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    I wonder where this "void" concept came from.
     
  2. Skywalker

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    Because people don't realize how low the spine actually is on the chest cavity. Here's a cutaway of a deer carcass. See how low the spine actually sits? When you shoot high, you will get nothing but muscle. That's going to be a superficial wound and most likely the deer will survive unless it gets infected. It's physiologically impossible to have a "void" inside the diaphragm. The lungs would not function properly if there was a void.

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    Evidently you have gutted Santa's reindeer.:busted:
     
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    I had a problem with all the blades opening up. Shot 2 does, both lung shots, but had very little blood. Both times the blades had not deployed completely. Needless to say I went away from mechanicals completely. Now I shoot G5 strikers and I LOVE them

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  5. Skylar oren

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    Thanks for pictures. thats all i needed to see.
     
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    So your saying there is no VOID.... *shaking my head* well tell me whats this area of pure just MEAT right here above the vitals but below the spine! IT IS SMALL but if the head hits horizontal to the ground it will slice that meat right there *NOT TOUCHING THE SPINE OR HITING A VITAL* AKA NO MANS LAND! But I guess i'm just a lair yet i'm the one speaking with way more experience than all of yall put together on rage hits by first hand seeing them... how about this for my last and FINALY point... you have guys like ya'll that say they are the greatest ever BUT on the other hand they also have people saying how BAD the head is... so you have BOTH sides... why would you want a broadhead that has BOTH sides and walk on that line not knowing which side you'll be on when you let your next arrow fly? why wouldn't you pick a broadhead that you DONT hear the horror stories about or the one you DONT hear of anyone loosing deer with because of the head? Yea I said it.. I don't see anyone on here EVER said oh that grim reaper broadhead it was the reason I lost my deer it doesn't get good penetration or it didn't open... YOU NEVER EVER HEAR THAT FROM ANYONE! so why not just stop the chancing and leave the one that you do hear horror stories where it belongs ON THE SHELF at the store and stop buying them because joe blow on tv said it was the best! Oh and before ya'll say the famous well with the angel it could never fly straight through.. umm GROUND BLINDS! mos of these hits come from the ground.. just saying it before ya'll bring that argument up as well.... [​IMG]
     
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    Bradleyprejean87 Weekend Warrior

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    Oh and my point above is ANOTHER reason why no one SHOULD ever shoot a 2 blade head... there are so many great 3 blade and 4 blade heads out there that a 2 blade head is just another thing that could go wrong when you had a choice to stop that from happening before you started!
     
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    You can stop digging now the hole is deep enough.
     
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    I kind of want to switch to 2 blade rage heads now....
     
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    I am actually converting to Muzzy after this thread, they have a new mechanical head that requires even more KE than the Rage. Good thing there is a guy here with a tracking dog that can help me find my buck if I hit it in no man's land.:lmao2:
     
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    I have been bowhunting for over 30 years, I have killed A LOT of deer shooting two blade heads (many with trad gear). They work and work well. You keep using poor penetration as a reason not to shoot Rage 3 blade, well nothing penetrates better than a 2 blade head. There is a reason they are preferred by many low draw weight compound and traditional archers.
     
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    Anyone who claims only one head is the bee's knees is simply naive and show their lack of knowledge. A well weighted constructed arrow that the hunter sends on target accurately will cleanly and swiftly harvest a deer. PERIOD.

    VERY rarely is it the heads fault a deer isn't recovered. VERY RARELY. Most times it is something the hunter did: poor shot choice, poor shot, terrible recovery process or lack of caring to complete a search.
     
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    I'm not claiming one head is the bees knees... I simply stated one DESIGN is so much more superior than the other... any over the top head design mech. Is better than a rear deploying head bottom line arguments over...
     
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    I also hunt with a trad gear and a firm believe in bleeders on my 2 blade heads because of such greater blood trails because with just 2 blades the skin will cover the hole while a deer is running while if you have 3 blades or bleeder there is always an opening that the skin doesn't cover while the deer is running away... thats the reason bleeders were even invented..
     
  15. Josh/OH

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    Bro, this is a mess. I need you to turn your "true belief" focus toward punctuation and grammar.


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    Good luck hitting that spot without clipping a major vein or artery. Not happening.
     
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    That area is completely covered by the shoulder blade, so your not going to hit that without doing major damage to both shoulder blades on a broadside from the ground shot.

    Also, just a quick internet search turns up plenty of people complaining about your beloved Grim Reapers.
    grim reaper broadheads-problem opening up? - Aldeer

    Grim Reaper problems - Archery HQ | In-Depth Outdoors

    Grimm Reaper Broadhead Failure


    Why would you risk shooting an expandable at all with your stance. I know why I do, I don't understand why you do given your stance about not wanting to have a possible failure. Eliminate the possibility by using a fixed broadhead.
     
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    Well he does have a tracking dog that will bay till you can get a few more shots in the deer.:o
     
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    Plenty of horror stories on the Grim Reapers - Why are you using them?

    Plenty of horror stories on fixed 2, 3, and 4 blade heads (no matter what brand) - Why are people using them?

    Not really sure how to even respond to your "no mans land" argument... Do some research before spewing nonsense.
     
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    Wow, a Rage and No Mans Land thread wrapped into one?.... It's TWOFER TUESDAY!!!!
     

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