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"Budget" bolt action rifles

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by buttonbuckmaster, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. woodsy211

    woodsy211 Weekend Warrior

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    Don't get me wrong, 243 is a great caliber. I have 2 of them and that's what I choose to deer hunt with. If u are not trying to save the hides, its a great all around gun to buy. Me and a handful of my buddies hunt deer with them (savage, Remington,browning) and the federal powershok 100gr seem to fly great regardless of the brand.
     
  2. buttonbuckmaster

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    I agree, there are better calibers for yotes. But if I can get a better price on a 243, I'll get it due to having a pile of ammo just collecting dust.
     
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    I d probably go with savage but Id also look at a Howa
     
  4. MrFourBelow

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    that little .243 has a fffflllllaaaaaatttt trajectory !! 200yrds no drop 300yrds 90gr bullet drop 1/2" !! not sure what it has left for energy at that range ... but it also has little recoil
     
  5. buttonbuckmaster

    buttonbuckmaster Grizzled Veteran

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    Uh....no. Sighted in at 100 yards, you will have at least 10 inches drop at 300.
     
  6. tfox

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    This

    It always amazes me how little people understand trajectory, be it bows or rifles.


    Normal Remington core lok 100 gr

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    Lighter 58 gr hornady vmax

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  7. tfox

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    The drift was figured with a 10 mph wind


    Here's the trajectory with no wind for the vmax

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  8. MrFourBelow

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    Doh !! the ballistic chart show 9.5"drop @300 ... without glasses looked like 0.5 !! My Bad !!
     
  9. MrFourBelow

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    I made an error by posting the incorrect info, while looking up multiple ballistic charts for multiple calibers... with varying zeros... 100yrds, 200yrds, 250yrds, 300yrds 400yrd etc.. I shudda paided closer attention to what I was looking at ...
     
  10. kennyg

    kennyg Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I bought the Savage 111 2 years ago with the accu-trigger and a Nikon scope for $499 at Bass Pro. I got a 30-06 but there was other calipers to choose from. Simple gun with bolt action and synthetic stock. Shoots great. Tho I haven't shot a ton of rifles to compare it to.
     
  11. bowhunter448

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    Just curious, why can't you rifle hunt in IL? I have an old Winchester 30-30 that I love to shoot. I know that a .17HMR is on my gun list, however.
     
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    Savage 111,
    Ruger American...both good rifle for the money.

    One that I say clear of would be the TC Venture....seen a couple that needed why to much work to make shoot.


    Don't discount a used rifle as you can get a higher quality gun on the cheap in the right situation.
     
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    Vote for savage here. I've heard people talk bad about savage, but I own 3 of them and the all shoot very well. Especially for the price. I just picked up a savage 30-06 with scope for $330. Didn't need it. But for that price nice gun to have. I also have an older .243 savage that I grew up shooting. I have no problems shooting that gun far distances. I have taken numerous whitetail bucks at 275 yards and further. And that was when I was living in North Dakota along the canadian border. The .243 is a flat shooting gun. I used it for coyotes as well.
     
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    If you want something that is not expensive and not to fancy but will get the job done get a stevens its made by savage just dosn't have the "accu trigger" and "accu stock" i have the Stevens model 200 and it is really accurate even with a 70 dollar scope i was going to put a better scope on it and test its limits but then i found bows :) ( stevens is an "off brand of savage" , Kinda like Bowtech and Diamond made by the same people just one is cheaper.
     
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    Terrain is flat here for the most part. We can use rifles for yotes but not for deer.
     
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    I have a lot so Savage rifles. All different models. My favorite is my Model 111 25-06, very good gun.
     
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    The 17 hmr is cheap to shoot and is a super rifle with a matching moa scope I love mine.
     
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    Ok. That makes sense.
     
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    22-250 great predator / ground hog gun
     
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    There is alotta ways to Look at it. U want a good all around caliber for bigger animals and yotes to go get a .243 or 25-06 or 260 rem. that will kill most of your animals you will hunt around Illinois.

    Far as the gun it's a broad spectrum. You can get used Brownings in abolt or xbolt for 500$ hardly used. Savage makes a good gun and the acu trigger is nice too. Some these boys talkin bout them cheap savage axis guns. They are
    Small and light and a good bang around gun but I'd like to watch 1 these cats shoot a 30-06 in that axis. Probably waters there eyes it kicks so flippin hard but they ain't mentioning that. 30-06 is a all American caliber as is 270 but frankly it's over kill and all in what u want.

    You can look at te cheaper line of savage called Stevens. They are shooters of a gun too. And as others have mentioned howa makes a solid lil gun too but for my liking its more of a 22 250 gun for me
     

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