i'd like to comment on this.. When I shot that bear, he slammed into the ground, jumped up, spun and dove over the bank, crashed real quick... gave out 4 big death moans and was done. I bet it was a 10 second ordeal at best.. I waited about 30 min and it got real dark, he was down in extremely dark heavy cover about 40-50 yards from my stand. I was still a little leary going in headfirst through the brush and thick timber after him, but I was sure he had died from what I saw and heard. I felt like I had hit him right in the crease behind the front shoulder. I try to shoot bears pretty tight because their vitals are tucked up in there. Anyway, I walked right too him, not a lot of blood though, it was all inside of him.. My arrow had hit 2 inches infront of the crease mid way up..so the height was great.. so it clipped his shoulder, busted through and drove through ( he was quartering away) drove through and BROKE his other shoulder..right at the base where it attaches to his leg, I was impressed..that it had enough energy to do so. I could not believe the damage that broadhead had done on the bones in this bear. ( SHUTTLE T LOCKS) Of course I blew through his lungs and he was bleeding profusely out of his nose and mouth.. It really did a job on him.. and made up for my being 2-3 inches to far forward.. so not a perfect shot.. but a shot that was probably more deadly and made for a shorter tracking job than if I would have just got lungs only... My arrow broke off when he hit the deck int he skid trail and spun.. I found that immediately.. The rest was lodged in his off side shoulder and then extending through his chest cavity and out the enterance hole about 1 inch.. I got ahold of it and jerked it out .. The broadhead after doing all that damage.. is still in tact.. I was very happy ... to see it withstand that type of punishment and hold together..