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Broadhead Question

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by KansasCowboy, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. KansasCowboy

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    I am getting some new fixed blade broadheads. I have decided on the G5 Montec fixed blades but unsure of what grain to get for whitetail deer hunting. I have heard that the 100 grains are more accurate but the 125 grains are more deadly. Please let me know what your thoughts on 100 gr. vs 125 gr.

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  2. jeffacarp

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    Either head will work fine for whitetails. As far as the lethality of a 100 gr vs a 125 gr head I dont think there's any way to quantify that. Either head placed in the vitals will kill a deer. Having more weight upfront will help increase your FOC, and the added weight upront should penetrate bone better and be less affected by the wind in flight.

    As far as the 100 gr head being more accurate, I'm not sure how to answer this question, but if your bow is tuned properly and you put in the time practicing there should be no problems with accuracy of either head. Just make sure that if youre going to shoot 100 gr broadheads, shoot 100 gr field points to practice with or you'll be all jacked up trying to set your pins.

    I feel like it would be easier to recommend a broadhead if we knew some of the specs of your current setup such as the following: draw weight, draw length, arrow weight, FOC, arrow f.p.s., KE? any of that would help.
     
  3. KansasCowboy

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    Thanks for the help. 70#, 28 in draw
     
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    100 grain is plenty. IMO.
     
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    I would go with the 100 grain also.
     
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    100 gr. is perfect, ive also used these heads and imo, one of the best fixed blade broadheads. If you like the g5 montects, get the g5 montec cs. They are way sharper right outa the box, and i think the same price. Good luck!
     
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    Unless your lightly spined I see no reason not to do the 125. It's a simply way to increase your FOC and increase arrow weight. Both very good things to do.
     
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    I used to use G5 Fixed, 100 Gr. Great FBlade BHead. 100 Gr is more than enough.
     
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    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

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    All you people stating 100gr. is more than enough...you realize so is 85grain broadheads...it's all about the set up and build of the arrow. It's not like comparing calibers in gun models... like is ..223 (85 gr head) enough or .243 (100gr head) or bigger yet .270 (125gr head). It's simply the weight of the head, a lot of the times the cutting diameter or size aren't even different between the weights. First start with your spine of the arrow, if it can support more weight I am an advocate always going up. The science behind a high FOC and heavier arrow weights in general just are black and white the more and more I read about them. *bonus of heavier arrow is always a quieter bow...but I mean we're talking 25 grains...the difference in FOC and total weight isn't going to be drastic but it could give it that tiny extra punch to poke out the other side over a light speed set up that goes fast but hits lightly.
     
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    I would have to say that 125 grain, I have been using 125 for about 5 years now and have seen a difference from when I shot 100 grain, but the truth is 100 grain is plenty it really comes down to preferences, but increasing the weight helps with flight and penetration.
    I am a big advocate of going up in weight and matching my equipment for get the best performance I can.

    This is what I say is the best advice given about the weight of the broadheads, Stick with what he said.
     
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    i never knew there was a difference in head then the weight changes. other then the fact that the overall weight weighs 125g heavier with a 125g head or 100 with a 100 head :moose:
     
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    There you have it...
     
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    I would say use lighter heads on lighter arrows, and use heavier heads on heavier arrows.
     
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    Thanks for the help guys, im still trying to figure everything out.
     
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    FOC is the most important when considering a 100 vs. 125 gr. head. I always shoot 125s when I can. This year I switched to the Killzone which was only avaiable in a 100 gr head. I use gold tips so I added 20 gr. with their weight system.
     
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    Yeah, Heck what head were you shooting prior to and if you can could you compare it to the Killzone? I'm still not 100% sold on mechanicals after a bad experience with one...my slick tricks did way more damage than I thought possible for such a "small" head.
     
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    I seriously doubt you'll tell much difference between a 100 and 125 grain head. Tyn-Man, I agree, the bigger is better mentality is hard to understand. With a 4 blade, 1 inch head we're still talking about 2- 1 inch wide gashes all the way through an animal. And if it enters at an angle, that gash can appear even larger. I angled in on the doe I shot last week and that entry wound was probably 3-4 inches wide. I shot a 1 1/8 Muzzy. I have tried expandables and they do a great job but no better than a Muzzy... dead is dead.
     
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    For sure on the mechanical to fixed comparison...but I disagree just a little with not telling a difference between 125 and 100. I've compared with my current set up and while impact wasn't much difference. Meaning the point of impact seriously only differed at most 3/4 of an inch on average, they did stick in the target consistently deeper with the 125 heads...again not much but I'd say if memory serves right the a good 1/2 inch to 1 1/4 inch deeper. Can be that slight difference...now I also have weighted inserts and went to a stiffer spine and I always wished I'd kept an old arrow to compare the old "speed" arrow to my heavier hard hitting one.
     
  19. Muzzy Man

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    I completely agree with your thoughts on penetration. The heavier head will go deeper if the arrow's flight is equally stable. I was referring to shooting a deer... either one should give a pass through if well hit. That is of course unless you try shooting a 2 inch 3 blade head through a shoulder blade. The thing is... it does happen often enough to be considered and I think you and I agree that a smaller fixed head far outweighs any cutting diamter advantage of a mechanical at that point. I have never seen a lost deer with a fixed head that could be attributed to not a large enough cut. I have seen game lost for poor penetration.
     
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    Loved this!
     

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