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Brain Damage and Football

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by fletch920, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. dnoodles

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    looks to me that at least 1/12 of active NFL players are already suffering from CTE...

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/25/t...hat-didnt-stand-for-the-flag-is-unacceptable/

    In all honesty, your friend Bowsage has a valid point- it is the civil lawsuits that will end the Football Machine. The NFL already paid out $1 billion in settlement fees...college football is next, then high school athletic associations, etc. There will come a time, probably very soon, that the liability insurance will be way too expensive for these institutions to afford. The NFL can absorb the costs for awhile so long as attendance remains high and Sunday Ticket subscriptions keep coming in; but as we've seen with this protest BS the fan base is not only staying home but also tuning out on Sundays. High schools are already dropping football programs left and right. College is sure to follow, and as we've already seen with Mizzou the fan base (read boosters) are not going to put up with entitled brats disrespecting our institutions.

    So in a way, Bowsage is right. Liberals by and large oppose tort reform. High profile liberals spit in the face of our veterans and police by kneeling during the anthem or refusing to respect the flag. Reasonable people turn away from the sport, and revenues plummet. Billionaire owners can't afford liability insurance because the civil lawsuits sucked the insurance companies dry, rates skyrocket, and revenues plummet. League folds.

    Liberals politicize EVERYTHING; the politicization of everything makes everyone miserable; ergo:

    Everything is liberals fault.
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    Noodles while I agree with what you posted, you can't call your own mike drop.:biggrin:
     
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    Yes, it's liberal's fault we were all ignorant for years and allowed kids to bash their heads in.
    You and I both know the above is not, meant. I love how kneeling fiasco got into this, get a grip and move on with your lives.
     
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    I'm going to start a civil suit against my High School.

    Those teachers were so damn boring I must have gotten a good 200 concussions from my head hitting the desk when I fell asleep.
     
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    FYI it was 760 million or so, and they paid it out because they were lying, I guess since Liberals love tort, conservative business love lying and hiding facts when they do harm to people to keep profits up, but let's skip over that tidbit.

    That's the deal, keep the money flowing in no matter who get's hurt, my god can we just have a reasonable conversation about a topic.
     
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    I guaranteed I had numerous undiagnosed concussions while playing football. I remember one my freshman year in college. Running down full speed on kick off team and I am about ready to hit the returner. Wham....full on helmet on the side of my helmet at top speed. The entire crowd got louder and the lights brightened big time. Kind of just walked off the field. Kept playing. Can also remember small ones here and there in practice and games. Like someone hitting you with a right cross to your temple. You just take it, get up, and keep going. Guaranteed not healthy for my brain. Might have taught me toughness and I value that now, but my brain was impacted without a doubt.
     
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    here here to that.

    I'm not going to quibble over 2-300 million dollars but multiple sites report it as $1 billion. Either way it's a crap-ton of money.
    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/15/new-cte-study-effect-nfl-concussion-settlement

    Sorry, but you have to follow the money on this one...the Left is both destroying the profitability of the league while at the same time increasing operational costs (liability) exponentially. If attendance and viewership continues to fall (and it will unless the owners get a grip on their EMPLOYEES) then there is no way the owners/league can afford to pay out all this money in salaries and lawsuits. The league will fold.

    Also, sorry but profiteering is most certainly not a conservative value. Greed has no ethos but greed. Many a "liberal" has made a pile of money on the misery of others.
     
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    That's nearly impossible these days.
     
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    NFL hides and dodges head trama injury's since 1994, they lie, deceive and write pretty bogus scientific papers for years, even suggest one can go back in a game after concussion.

    What do we get it's liberals and tort reform, my god just call it correctly. NFL will have killed football with their greed and lieing, it's not liberal view or a conservative one, it's just the right one and we have lost that.

    I deal in right and wrong, not left or right.
     
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    I know first hand what multiple concussions will do but I'll tell you about my cousin since mine weren't football related. Illinois State Redbirds. Div.1 wide receiver. The kid was a stud. Diagnosed with TBI. Let's just say his football future is done. I know if I ever have a boy I'll pay for him to play hockey before I let him play football.


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    I just don't care about CTE as it relates to the NFL. Regardless of what the NFL was telling or not telling the players, they ALL knew there were risks and would bet 99% of them, knowing what we know now, have still made the choice to play in the NFL. There are hundreds of jobs out there that end up damaging peoples bodies in all sorts of ways, none of which pay in the millions.

    Now, what it means at the high school and college level, that's a little different. Every parent has the right to choose if their kid plays football or not. My parents chose not to let me play and so I didn't play as a Freshman or Sophomore. It wasn't until a friend talked to my parents about the potential he thought I had that they reconsidered and asked me if I wanted to play. I had just resigned to the fact that I wasn't going to play so I had stopped even asking. That two years of high school football taught me so much about mental toughness, physical toughness, discipline, pushing my limits, being part of a team, being a leader that I would choose to do it again in a heart beat. Even knowing the risks. I had an opportunity to play at the next level but eventually decided that I would need to focus on my academics too much to be a tackling dummy of the college football team and even thought that was probably a wise decision, I still look back on it with regret.
     
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    I can solve the spearing and leading with the head problem in one move which will take care of many of the vicious hits. Redesign the helmets without the crown. Pretty much only takes one hit to the head without the protection of the helmet for players to realize it hurts. Can still have a facemask and protection for the sides and back of the head.

    Problem with football is there is to much padding, the players defenders primarily don't feel enough of the impact so the keep trying to hit harder and harder.
     
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    Right, we wont have to worry about CTE because they will just die.
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    Bob Costas got pink eye a few years back at the olympics because he kept his head up his ass. Bob is intoxicated by the sound of his own voice.
     
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    I don't see what the big deal is, if your worried about the players health then you are wasting your time. It is their choice, they have all decided that permanent injury is worth the risk of becoming the best and making millions. When you look at it from a work standpoint, they can either break their bodies on a playing field once a week for a few years and make millions. Or they can work in a construction site, break their bodies down over 30 years for far less money.

    The hard truth is at the end of the day we all break down and die, there is no getting around it. If you work you die and if you don't work you die quicker. You can get your head smashed in and make millions. Or work a 9-5 desk job and develop health issues there. So why not let them make their own decisions. Let them take the risk if they want, but if you water down the sport to the point that there is no risk then there will be no reward.
     
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    Problem with football is there is to much padding, the players defenders primarily don't feel enough of the impact so the keep trying to hit harder and harder.[/QUOTE]

    Do you really think that players been holding back till they get better padding so they can try to hit harder ?
     
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    I've had 2 concussions (that I know about) in lacrosse. I was a soaking wet 130 freshman playing varsity. Got a hospital pass in front of the cage and laid out by a 220 lb. senior defenseman. I guess the trainer asked me what city I lived in and I told him Alaska. Was practicing 2 days later. The other one was a head to head collision at full speed going for a ground ball. I don't remember anything that happened. Maybe that is what's wrong with me?
     
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    Not the point, point is the players were lied too, we were lied too. Hell the NFL actually stated it was okay for youth players to go back in to a game after a concussion . That's why the liberal suing view is just BS, look how the NFL tried to cover concussion's and head getting bounced around caused to a player. Now today if as a parent you let your kid play, you know the risk, it's on you from here on out.
     

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