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Brain Damage and Football

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  1. Lester

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    Just like everything else they don't wan't to take the blame for their actions or their family members. He is a POS that they are still trying to treat as a winning lottery ticket. That family deserves NOTHING!
     
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    Was listening to 670 the Score earlier today and they talked about how they thought the victim's (whomever Aaron H. killed) family would go after Florida & New England after these findings.
     
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    I used to hang around a limited amount of professional boxers back when I was doing my mma thing. Many were "punch drunk".....in other words suffering from cte at a very early age. I saw it first hand. Imagine a 30 year old male football player who has butted heads for a couple decades. I don't need a scientific study to tell me that isn't good for the human brain.

    I loved the game of football, but I won't blindly defend it.

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    I just look at it this way, when the top neurologist all say don't play high-contact sports until 14, I'll go with them. What amazes me is how some parents just ignore the data and the experts. At 14 my son and I will talk about playing football.
     
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    My son played starting in second grade, never concussed thru hight school. Then again he had a brilliant youth coach that taught proper technique.
     
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    Since don't believe concussions cause CTE, they believe it's all the sub-concussion plays. Youth heads are big and the necks are weak, its the bobblehead affect. I do get a kick out of my kid never was concussed, we did not know back then. I was diagnosed with one, but I bet I had more.
     
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    I was an early subscriber to the early head injury coach training certification process. I mandated the training.
     
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    Owen Wilson(1988-2010) never diagnosed with a concussion, dead at 21 with advance CTE.

    Explain to me how proper technique keeps ones head from bouncing off the ground or turf? Especially for a kids 12 and under who play. Heads are big and necks are weak, they are even more prone brain bouncing around. It's not just about helmet to helmet or the head getting hit, I am sure with your training you know this to be true.

    Ever tell a player he got his bell wrong and he'll be fine?
     
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    Doesn't matter how much training or how many certificates you have to teach them... You can't teach a kid to keep his head from bouncing off the ground, or keep them from the occasional helmet to helmet hit, etc. It's part of the game.
     
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    The worst concussion I have seen was not even a hard hit, nor was it in football. It was 3 years ago at one of my son's youth soccer game. One of his teammates went down, not hard at all from what I and the other parents say. He landed on my son's foot, looked harmless. The kid did not get up, the ref was young and new me so he asks for my help. I have never seen such a spaced out look before. Thank goodness one of the moms was a sports doc.

    So I am curious on how heads-up football stop heads from bouncing off the ground?
    How does it help in the trenches? Lineman from bunting heads?
    How it stops heads from getting hit on gang tackles?

    I know little about heads-up football, would love to learn more from those who have seen it in action. Went to my first HS game in a long time, I saw a lot of heads banging.
     
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    What changes is recognition and protocols and that has been proven to be a vast improvement. Recognition leads to treatment, and not participatating till the injury has healed. The training and program has helped a great deal.
     
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    That's great for concussions, but the research is showing it's the non-concussive blows maybe causing CTE.

    How does Heads-up football help with those? As a ref in Ohio, I am required to take the concussion training, it's similar to what you did. My training did nothing for the repeated blows to the head, how does proper technique reduce those?
     
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    Yes it does, we are talking about the rugby style tackling? I have heard coaches that have installed the tactic and train and practice it that conclusions numbers have dropped. There never was a tackling technique coached by a coach with a brain that said hey use your head as a weapon, or lead with your head. I am sure there are some idiots out there that have, but people are getting smarter.
     
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    My grandpa had two brain surgeries this past spring from a fall. He never had a bruise anywhere on his head, headaches or any symptoms period from the fall. The doctors told us that the exact same results could happen to any of us from something as little as hitting your head on the freezer door, corner of the table bending over, etc.,. Brain issues are not something to take lightly.
     
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    The push comes from people that don't want to see their loved ones become vegetables or worse from playing a game. I know plenty of conservatives that would not be too interested in letting their kids play football at this time. It's recognizing that there is a very real problem with the sport and having the guts to admit that it might not be in the best interest of our kids to play football. But, when athletics are involved, machismo egos get in the way of common sense. Maybe some of the deniers have CTE.
     
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    I have done some MMA and coached youth football, that being said, I am inclined to keep my future kids to wrestling and other sports. I would love to put em in rugby opposed to football. I am a big fan of the game but wouldnt want to risk that type or repeated hit on my kids. CTE is definitely scary stuff, just watch a football game, heads are getting knocked around constantly, and if a helmet isnt fitted right?- wayyy worse. There is just too big of a risk for me to want to stay involved in that sport.
     
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    We are all dumber for reading this comment. I really don't understand what is going on, so I'll just say liberal. So tired of this bull ****, have a damned original thought for once in your life.
     

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