So im gonna go shoot them both this weekend but for now i want to see if anyone has had any problems with either of these bows. They are both the same price and both come RTH for $599. Any info on either one is helpful. Thanks guys.
Spec wise you're getting about the same speed with a longer BH with the Assassin. I haven't shot the Mauler, but if she shoots for ya, do it. My pick would be the Assassin, those Bear bows just aren't pretty enough for me.
Look at the diamond outlaw also, it's only $499. The longer brace height should make it a little more user friendly. However, as stated, shoot them both.
Ok 1 more curveball. There is a guy on craigslist with a 2010 HOYT Maxxis 31 and he wants $565 for just the bow. Should i jump on this? He says there are no scratches or anything and the bow is like new.
I purchased an assassin in the black ops color about two months ago. The only problem I've had is that the fletchings got torn up by the whisker biscuit. I'm completely new to bow shooting but, I'm glad I went with the bowtech.
I have the Assassin and love it. Did you put a whisker biscuit on it? With the RAK system Assassin it doesn't come with a WB.
As far as the whisker biscuit problem, the package I'm lookin at comes with an Octane Hostage Rest. I've done a little research on this and it doesnt seem to be tearin up fletchings. Im gettin off work early today and headin over to the shop to shoot them along with the Diamond that indynotch50 suggested. Ill find out what ill be gettin tonight. now i just have to wait till payday.
This wouldn't be a problem with the bow just the rest. An Apache rest would solve this one. IMO, Bowtech all the way. For me it was the feel. For some reason me and two of my friends felt the same way, the handle on the Bear bows seemed to dig into the thumb nuckle of our bow hand. The Assasin seamed more comfortable to me and the draw cycle seamed more my style. I like the Assisn and it is still on my list of bows for next spring. Thats just my opinion. Shoot both of them. If you have too shoot them back to back to back until you decide. After all it is you that will have to be on stand with it.
Ok so yesterday i went and shot a lot of bows. I pretty much have it narrowed down to three. They all have plus and minus to them. Diamond Outlaw- PRO: Pretty fast IBO and really light. Con- a little more vibration than the other two but overall a really good feeling bow. Oh yeah also $100 cheaper than the other two. Bowtech Assassin- Pro- Really good feel on release. Hardly no vibration. 333 FPS. Con- Harder to draw back. PSE Bow Madness- Pro- Smoothest relaese off all the bows i tried. Felt real good. Con- only 305 IBO The only reason im caring so much about the IBO is b/c i have a really short draw length and that will be killing the FPS. From what u see here what would you pick? They all felt real good its just hard to decide.
I understand you being concerned with the speed, but remember that speed is not the only thing that counts. Many guys that shoot trad are getting under 200 fps and they still kill deer. Take into account how loud/quiet each bow is. That being said, the only con you have listed for the assassin is that it is harder to draw back. This is how every binary cam system I have ever shot is. It is very easy to get used to though. Personally I would go with the assassin, but this is you shooting the bow so go with what feels best to you based on what you want in a bow.
Get the diamond and put some quieting stuff on it like a string stop, or get the assassin and you'll get used to the draw weight.
I will be ordering my bowtech assassin on the 1st. Should only take a couple of days to get here then i get to start throwin on some goodies. But what does everyone recomend for arrows? Thats the only thing i dont really know much about. how do you go about picking out the right length and weight and all that stuff... help is appreciated.
What is your draw length / weight? I've seen arrow length differ so much, some people do 1 inch more than draw length, mine is right at my draw length and I've seen people 3/4 inch under draw length. Obviously I like my decision best. Your draw weight will choose your spine. If you get a 60-70, I'd go with a .340 spine. 50-60, with a .400. I don't think that exactly matches the charts, but I like to have my arrows a little on stiff side.
As far as total weight you never want to go below 5 grains per draw pound (70 pound draw, minimum arrow weight = 350 grains). Then it depends on the type of hunting and distance of shot. I pull 70 pounds and have a 28 inch draw. I shoot a 28 inch carbon express blue streak 350 (.347 spine) and they are right about 377 grains. I will use these as hunting to shoot within 50 yards.
After reading your last post about the pros and cons, I'd have to agree with your decition. After you shoot the Assassin for a little while it will become easier to draw. As for the arrow thength that seams to me to varry from bow to bow and rest choice to rest choice. My arrows are the same as my draw. Now that I have changed my rest out to the NAP Apache (which I would suggest everyone to do) I could go 3/4" shorter because the rest sits back closer to the string. I would suggest taking a full legth arrow, draw it and have someone mark the arrow just in front of the rest. I would add 1/2". If you are more comfortable, add 3/4". I agree with Indy on the spine weight.
I also have the assassin and love it. I am shooting Gold Tip XT Hunters at 360 grains for deer and Carbon Express Mayhems for elk.
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