Just looking for a bit of education between these two product lines. I understand first and foremost that the Diamond brand is the "retail" line of bows from Bowtech. Outside of knowing that, I am not sure of the differences. I was at the local bow shop and they stick Bowtech. I mentioned that I was thinking about the Diamond Ice Man for next year and he stopped me in my tracks. He mentioned that there is a reason that Diamond is the retails brand and that there were differences. He did not go into them. Stated that he would order me a Diamond with no problems however, I should really consider the Bowtech line. So, money not being an object between the two. What should I or any other buyer know between the product lines around quality, parts, workmanship, machine tolerances etc? Thanks in Advance. I did a quick search on this site and did not see a post with this kind of info.
Quality, machine tolerances, etc are going to be the same on both lines. Both are great bows. Primary differences in the past is that the Diamond line are all using single cam technology. BowTech is using the Binary™ (:D) cam systems on their bows. The Binary™ system is typically more efficient, faster, and has better nock travel. Other than that, they are both fantastic bows. I had a Diamond Marquis last year, and it was one of the best single cam bows I've owned, I would shoot both and figure out which you like the best. You can't go wrong with either one.
they are made in the same plant so yeah as rick said everything is the same for the most part other than look and the 2 cam 1 cam thing
Thanks Guys for the input. Not sure what the quality differences the pro shop was referring to. Any other folks have a say in this one?
You looking for the fancy-smancy Corporate answer? What Rick said. :D Seriously... same riser blanks, same CNC machines, same grip forms even (on the flagship Diamonds). You've just got to figure out which you prefer as far as DFC's go (Draw Force Curves)... do you want to hit peak weight sooner and hold it throughout the draw cycle and see some gains in speed? Or do you want to ramp up more gently, peak and then fall off with a single cam? It sure is awesome to be able to have the choice though in such a top-of-the-line bow.
Thanks again. I love a smoothing bow. Very hard to pass up. My current bow is a New Wave, Riptipe by Proline and it is pretty smooth on the draw. Other bow is an old Oneida which is perfect from a draw perspective. Although I will shoot many bows when the time is right. I have heard a few comments related to staying away from Diamond unless you can't afford the big brother Bowtech's. Never heard anyone actually explain the difference in "Quality" Retail Vs. Dealer only. Seems like solid answers from the folks here. I will be less hesitant to select the Diamond Ice Man now if I like how it shoots since the quality debate is gone (or was never really there). The final choice will be a bit tough. I would like to compare the new Oneida Falcon with the other bows in the industry. Don't think I can drop a grand on a bow that I can't touch, feel, shoot, etc. I also like the length on the Bowtech / Diamond line compared to the 43-46 in length of the Oneida. Thanks again. Time to do some work so I have a bonus check to cash next spring.
if you are looking for a very smooth shooter definatly (sp.) shoot the diamond black ice smoothest bow i have shot very accurate decent speed and very affordable i think they run 600 or less bare bow
They don't know, they were making it all up . If you don't know don't guess. Like others have said, shoot them first. Feeling makes all the difference. any Diamond is a fine bow!
I hesitated for 3 years before i bought a new bow..... I ended up with a 09 Ross for my own personal reasons... Because i liked how it is from the grip , smoothness thru the draw , backwall , & reasonable speed -- 267.7 fps / fully loaded string / at 60 pounds & 29'' draw.& your cheaper Easton epic 340 arrows w/ 100 grains.. The toss up was between that , Diamond black Ice , & an Elite bow .... Hard decision to choose You can see the differences in the machining work between the lines of bows/ even if they are made by the same place.... I overlooked the ross & i felt it was for me...... Every Bowtech bow i have seen out there is top notch !!! ** Go to a place where they shoot leagues & see how these bows perform - Listen too...
