I am in a little bit of a tight spot and wanted your guy's feedback how I should proceed. This last year I picked up a new property. It's a really nice property however its really big and only accessible from the west side. It is 1.2 wide. The east border follows a creek and the property line runs right smack down the middle of it. There is a road that dead ends at the northeast corner of the property and turns back north. There is a little sliver of property that is no more then 20 yards wide that I would need to access to get into the property I can hunt from the north east corner. I happened to be up that way when I met the farmer that owns this ground. He was pleasant and gave me permission to walk across his ground. However the neighbor to the south of him and east of the property I am hunting isn't so pleasant. I parked on the northeast corner several time to hunt. On my next visit several no trespassing signs had been posted along with several posts painted purple. I called the landowner that gave me permission and he said he did not put up those signs. It would appear his neighbor to the south is doing this even though the land is not his! From what I gathered he doesn't know his neighbor to the south all that well and doesn't like him at all. I could sense if this was going to become a problem for him then I could lose access all together. I really don't feel like its my place to go confront the landowner to the south. What should I do? Ignore the signs and continue to park / hunt there knowing I may have a problem when I return to my vehicle? Confront the landowner? Stop accessing the land from the northeast?
I would continue on doing what you have been doing. Unlikely the guy will vandalize your truck especially if he has to trespass but I suppose you never know. If you happen to confront him just tell him how it is. You aren't doing anything wrong.
Do you guys have land access cards in KS? I'd ask the landowner you have permission with to sign one for you and make a copy and stick it in your windshield. It's a tough situation especially if the landowners aren't familiar with each other. You can only be so proactive on things before either really upsetting the sign poster or as you said the cooperative landowner doesn't want the hassle. Good luck with it
I stop by the neighbor that isn't so nice. Explain who you are, what you are doing. I'd care to bet that he simply doesn't know who you are, and he's doing what he can to keep the riff raff away, even if it's not his property. If he has a hissy fit, which he won't, simply walk away and continue to walk through the property.
get written permission, make several copies- go hand deliver one to the property owner to the south. i don't know the laws in ks, but the laws in nj are very clear- it is against the law to harass a hunter in any way, during hunting season, while hunting legally.
Screw that guy! You know you are in the right and so does the landowner that has given you permission.
Sounds like you have the idea already. You don't want to start a conflict between the two and potentially lose the hunting rights. I would try to talk to the south owner but in non hunting clothes. That has seamed to work for me in the past. It kinda takes away any negative first thoughts one might get when you show up to talk. Keeping it classy will also you feeling better when it's over. But make it clear you have land owner permission and are going to continue to park there.
That's a pickle, be right, play nice, but don't back down in your resolve. We can not always see eye to eye when it comes to the harvest. Protect yourself with professionalism & documentation. Good Luck Bra-
I would confront the landowner, but be ready to start parking somewhere else. Even though you are in the right don't make it uncomfortable for the landowner who has granted you permission. Good luck, sounds like a potentially tough situation.
Talk to the guy. Take a map of the property and your permit with you and show him pics of what you understand to be the property line. Maybe he doesn't know which way you are going into the woods and is just being overly cautious. If that doesn't work... try to park somewhere else if possible but if not... don't worry about it and hunt away.
I agree. Where I live, we watch out for each other. If I see a strange vehicle parked in an out of the ordinary spot on my neighbor's ground, I find out what's going on. I would go talk to him and explain what's going on. Once he knows you're not tearing things up or doing something you shouldn't be, he'll probably be a lot nicer. I hope so anyway. Some people are just jerks no matter what
I am going to go with leaving a copy of written permission in the window of my vehicle. That way if the landowner to the south calls the law they can address it if need be. I verified the land owners property stops on the south side of the road I am parking on. As long as stay on the road and cross the creek to the north of it he can't say squat!
Your own sanity and property value would greatly increase with either a ingress/egress walking easement or a permanent easement.
I would tend to agree with this. I get pretty suspicious when I see trucks parked near my property lines. Now, I don't go marking my neighbors property with signs and paint, but I try and keep a close eye out for where they are going in or coming out from.
I would not continue parking when I went in that way. Have someone drop you off or enter from the other direction. There could be several reasons the other owner does not want you there. Sometimes I park in places I do not want the deer to travel. It is not worth the two owners fighting about you. I would avoid the friction. It is easy to puff out your chest on the internet and talk big when it does not invlove you, but I have learned to steer clear of drama.
