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Blazer Vane or QAD LD sucks????

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by WesternMdHardwoods, Aug 4, 2009.

  1. WesternMdHardwoods

    WesternMdHardwoods Weekend Warrior

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    I am not quite sure what vane I am going to have to go to now?

    I just got doone shooting a little bit with Beman ICS arrows wrapped/BLAZERS...and no matter which way I turn my arrow I cant get clearance from hitting my QAD LD rest?? I am actually hitting the felt that is placed on my riser shelf along with the bar holding the launcher on the rest??

    I never shot any four inch vanes but from eyeballing it, I am not going to be able to even clear with them?

    Does anybody have any suggestions?? The centershot should be right as it was set a few days ago at the pro-shop?? Does anybody have any suggestions on new Vanes???

    I am switching to a smaller diameter FMJ arrow so maybe that combined with a smaller profile vane, I can get enough clearance???
     
  2. brucelanthier

    brucelanthier Grizzled Veteran

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    Perhaps your nock point was set to low and needs to be raised.
     
  3. stikbow26

    stikbow26 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I had the same problem with the Qad rest myself and finally gave up on it!!Walt
     
  4. WesternMdHardwoods

    WesternMdHardwoods Weekend Warrior

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    The nocking point was raised but I am not sure itf it was raised high enough I am going to move it when I get out shooting again!?!
     
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    mudnation 1 Weekend Warrior

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    raised mine 1/4" before it cleared but I still have a little contact using the foot powder but I am still accurate. If I hadnt spent the money I would probably have chosen something diffrent like the octane.
     
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    I had some contact with my blazers and had to move the rest and turn the nock, now Im shooting bullet holes and shooting my BH and FP out to 40 yds hitting the same point of impact...I will change to 4" feathers next yr and be done with it..
     
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    That is the exact same point of contacts I had when I first set my HD up ( moleskin on riser and bar that holds launcher). I first moved my launcher to the outside holes on the bar and that solved most of the riser contact but I did have to move the rest ever so slightly to the left on the horizontal adjustment...riser contact solved...oh I almost forgot I did turn my rooster vane slightly beyond 90 degrees. I also replaced the launcher that was on it in the box to the other one in the box that is approx. 1/8" taller in the valley of the launcher and I did raise my rest 1 hash mark on the vertical adjustment. This combined with turning my vane slightly beyond 90 degrees solved the contact issue with the bar that holds the launcher. As long as you have a LD or HD you should NOT get any contact with fletching if it is tuned right...it might take a little tinkering with but if I can do it anybody can. Make sure at full draw the hash marks on the rest and thumb wheel line up and the thumb wheel mark does not go beyond the mark on the rest, but also make sure it gets all the way to it. I have shot shrink fletch blazers and 4" feathers so far. I would not trade my QAD HD for anything!!! Hope this helps.
     
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    Vabowman Grizzled Veteran

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    I have gone to the LD version and was getting contact with blazers , I moved the rest forward as far as i could and went with longer arrows and went to shooting 4" feathers, I walked back tuned and so far they shoot great...but this will be the last QAD I have.
     
  9. brucelanthier

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    That seems like a heckuva lot of work just to get the rest to function without interfering with the arrow.

    I put my limbdriver rest on, set it up for center and level then shot with it. Never had to touch it after that. You could say the same thing about a number of any other rests.

    I am just curious what you like so much about the QAD that makes it worth all of that trouble?
     
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    My problem with not changing was I am too damn stubborn to admit defeat and I cant get my money back. Wife doesnt like me experimenting when it costs money. LOL
     
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    I really did not think it was much trouble...I had it on, timing cord adjusted and contact problems solved in 30 min or less. Did it all by sight because I have no squares or levels and took it down the street to a shop just to let him put it on the bench to see if I had done ok and he made 1 small adjustment with the square that took about 1 min. and I was done. It was very easy but would have been easier if it was not going on a 11 yr old bow with an 11 yr old sight. My old bow has the steel cables so I had him put a nock above the cable clamp ( would have loved to have been able to serve the cord to the cable but not possible with an old bow) just in case it wants to creep up over time. I really thought it was pretty easy especially for me considering that I usually just take my stuff to my local shop for strings, peeps etc, etc.
    I did consider the Limbdriver as well, but I wanted to be able to have full containment, shoot from the loaded position and no movement on let down. For what I wanted in a rest, the HD and maybe the Ripcord were about the only ones that fit me.
    After hunting for about 28 yrs and bow hunting for about 11 yrs, I am now just getting interested in trying to do SOME things with my bow equipment myself.
     
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    Thanks. I guess reading it made it seem more difficult that actually doing it.
     
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    Yea, I went back and read it too and I agree it did seem like alot but I don't think it was too much. I was using a Golden Key Futura Rover Microtune that is still a good prong style rest but I was just wanting something a little different now. That sucker was put on 11 yrs ago and I never had to touch ( except for changing different style prongs) it until I took it off. I just don't change my stuff very often so I've never bought any equipment to do the work myself but I guess I need to at least buy a good square with a level on the end of it. That's the only thing the bow tech did for me. He put the square on and moved the vertical 1 hash mark to get it level...oh he did put the nock above the clamp.
    The Limbdriver was my second choice because I like the cord going to the limbs. I watched their video and was impressed. Now on to my sights...my top 2 so far are Spot Hogg and Armortech.
     
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    Im really disappointed in my LD/HD QAD. Hell my hunter series was better.. my LD still comes back up after the shot, it does not lay flat on the riser after I shoot...don't know why, but it was 139$ and Im not happy...
     
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    Not to hijack the thread but I currently have both and if I had to choose right now I would go with the Armortech. Less expensive, equal quality.
     
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    Join the club Vabowman join the frickin club!! I noticed tonight that my rest is not dropping completely!!! It drops almost to a 90degree angle but not quite.... I tinkered for a little bit and moved my drop cord around a bit and the last 5 shots of the night it was beginning to drop almost all the way!! I am going to mess with it a little more tommorow...BUT this will be my last QAD...which reminds me I have to go rip the free sticker they gave me off my truck!!

    Hey Vabow~~ are you able to manually push with your finger the launcher down past 90 degrees???? I am betting you can, I dont know why/how this is possible??
    I gotta feeling I will be calling QAD tommorow to express my opinions if I cant get it to stay locked and lay flat!!

    I shoulda went with a frickin Ripcord or Limb Driver!!!
     
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    I was seriously thinking about getting the QAD LD till I read this.
    I shoot the Beman ICS with blazers. I believe Im going with the APACHE.
    Now, do I get the micro or the new carbon?
     
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    After a full year with the Apache I would have to say you are making a very good choice
     
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    rknierim Die Hard Bowhunter

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    QAD Hunter. Works great for me. Haven't tried the LD or HD, but why would I when this one works so well? Hope you guys get things lined out.
     
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    I had one and it wouldn't drop fast enough no matter how I set the cord. I was very disappointed because I heard so many good things about it. Sold it for a little under what i bought it for and switched to a Vaportrail Limbdriver. I haven't had an issue in the 3 years that I've had it.
     

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