finally got some range time with it. took a bit to get it balanced how i wanted, then all the sudden NO MOVEMENT when at full draw, was stacking some good groups! I ended up with a lot more weight toward the back than I thought i would, but no complaints based on results. set up bowtech carbon knight extreme bowstrings strings/cables fury material trophyridge firewire v3 sight qad rest hotshot vapr4 easton axis 509gr pushing about 265-270 cheap truglow quiver which sucks then addition of the beestinger i guess i knew good balance was important, but was shocked at how much noticeable difference it made when looking through peep. i have it rotated down as much as i can, 2 weights in back 3 in front and its about even length front to back