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Austrian Winter peas?

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  1. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    I have parts of 2 plots to seed in July, I am going with Austrian Winter peas. Anyone have success stories?
     
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    yes they work good, but i would mix them in with something else instead of a pure plot of peas.

    One mix Antler King has a mix peas/buckwheat/radish/athena rape. Also two other mixes have peas in them.
    That pea/buckwheat/radish/athena rape is my favorite mix if I had to have one.
     
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    I have a clover plot that I added to this spring, right now it is oats those will be tilled in then the peas planted thinking of mixing radish in.
     
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    Austrian winter peas planted before august, aren't designed to handle the heat as well as forage soybeans, cowpeas, lablab and forages like that. The winter peas might withstand cooler temps a tad better than 4010's, trapper and other forage peas but they also are .70 per lb verses .46 per lb. I'd recommend mixing with triticale as it's better nutritionally than oats. I also believe that you also can mix peas with many other various combinations. One can use fall rye, winter forage wheat, radish, annual clovers like berseem....
     
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    I am mowing then tilling the oats under before I plant the peas, and mixing radishes as well. My July average high is 83 vs August average high of 81. I do not think 2 degrees on average is going cause a crop failure. The plots do not receive full sun and are irrigated so I think the odds are the longer growing time will be a benefit
     
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    I'm adding 15# buckwheat with my peas along with some brassicas and 10# tritacle . The buckwheat will grow fast and will take the deer pressure off the peas at first.
     
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    I fence off my plot from august till November 1 so pressure will not be any issue.
     
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    Peas do not plant until after august 1st in Wisconsin. Their maturity is 60 days. They are cool season crops. This is why peas and oats, peast and triticale, peas and barley are seeded as early as they are and why after late may, people turn to the sorghums, forage soybeans and warm season crops.

    When consulting with graziers as well as wildlife people, you want to grow tonnage and quality. As noted in the January Wisconsin ag business seminars, with UW research. Peas add quality but don't add tonnage in "blends" I love peas but they don't give a person sward density and they don't give the tons of dry matter per acre that i recommend on limited acreage that most food plots contain.

    Yes, i'll have 60 areas in test plots of various blends that contain peas in them but they also will have triticales, winter rapes, and other experimental brassicas and annual clovers.

    I do have some straight pea varieties in some test plots and they are doing exactly as expected for June/July In Wisconsin. I just needed some pics and to show what they do when planted late.
     
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    yes they say 60 days but what 60 days? I have had fall plantings come up short because I suspect September days are like March days as far as hours of daylight and the sun is fading so I am thinking mid July will get the peas to maturity when I want then growing slows way down in September, correct me if I am wrong
     
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    Oats take 60 days to reach maturity, weather permitting. Most people who are certified crop advisors, agronomists and reputable seedsman typically don't recommend many things to be planted in July because of the lack of rainfall and the heat. Oats, triticale, wheat, rye, barley, oats, winter peas, peas are all cool season crops.

    So, to clean my hands and to spare my background...

    UW Soil Science Extension - Wisconsin Crop Management Conference Materials
    There are some article and research on planting dates and oats and some pea info.
    I also have a diverse background and a lot of people in my circle of trust who get paid nicely to do seed research and make recommendations.

    Plant away but I only recommend based on sound science and not a hope and a dream or luck.
     
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    I appreciate your credentials but I still feel that the growing season is different from North central Minnesota to southern Wisconsin.
     
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    The group im associated has many many test plots sitting right in your backyard and there are 3 of the best agronomists around who will never ever recommend seeding or telling anyone to plant any cool season crops in July. I'll be travelling up there next week to look at some of the latest research in the US.

    So, i'll try this another way. If one plants oats, grains or cool season crops during dry and heat, your looking to have stunted growth, your looking to have poorer nutrition values, your looking at early maturity. You would need to clip your forages unless there is enough deer to keep it clipped close enough to the ground. I'm planting various crops this weekend but i'm doing it to prove what not to do as part of my research.

    Here is a recent piece from the University of Minnesota....
    Late Planting of Small Grains : Minnesota Crop News : University of Minnesota Extension
    http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/natural_resources/climate/summaries_and_publications/comII.pdf
     

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