Don't be sorry Dan, I've ridden my wifes with stock Rawhides and mine with the mudlites and sure there's a little difference to me, not as much as you suggested(for me) but the trade of is remarkable for the price, imo. To each his own. And just to clarify, my next set will be Maxxis Zillas .... I ride in more muddy trails than anything. And I know guys with Gorillas, and they replace Axles... alot. Unless you upgrade to gorilla axles.... just a fyi. :D