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Article Spurs Interest in Giant Buck

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Bowhunting.com Staff, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. Sota

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    I think it is a matter of semantics and state lands. Here in Minnesota there are SNA's scientific natural areas that the public can not enter hence trespassing. Sounds like Illinois has different lands with different policies for use.
     
  2. bradn4201

    bradn4201 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    That's kinda like the sandy hook people trying to sue remington because a mental patient used their gun in an illegal manner. I know it's not that far but the same premise. I guess we should sue blue bonnet for people having heart attacks and Chevrolet and Ford because people drive drunk. That's just silly and frivolous IMO.
     
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    Good ol' Illinois. What a place.
     
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    Crickets.

    I don't see how Preserve land in Illinois is any different than Preserve land anywhere else. I don't get the argument pearce poses that others just don't understand because they don't have Preserve land. I would guess that most of us live near some type of State Park, Forest Preserve, Nature Conservancy, National Park, etc., etc., that operates under very similar laws.

    I am kind of a rock hound and while hiking this summer in Glacier National Park, I found several rocks and minerals that I would have loved to put in my pocket and bring home. But, it only takes a room temperature IQ to understand that it's illegal to remove any item from the park. You know that going in. If you don't like the rules, go somewhere else. We are all allowed to use these properties to do things we love, like hiking, and watching wildlife. Just because we cant pick up a shed does not mean that the gates are locked.
     
  5. michael_pearce

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    First off that is a statement not an argument and Illinois has More Preserve Land that you are NOT allowed to use for even hiking unless you stay on the paved path that goes around the out side of the Preserve.
    My point is that how can guys comment on Preserve rules in ILLINOIS that do not or have not ever lived here?
    So that being said look up the preserves in northern Illinois and read the rules you would have to follow and tell me that the average person that wants to teach a kid about nature feels like it is inviting to go to.
    Now that being said there are plenty of areas in some counties that allow you to hunt, walk around, etc.
     
  6. Justin

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    So what exactly are we arguing about here? I'm confused.

    Just because the public (government) owns the property doesn't mean it belongs to any one individual. Hence the reason you can't remove items from a public preserve. While it may seem stupid when it comes to removing a single leaf, branch or deer antler it becomes much clearer if you think about people chopping down a pine tree to put in their house as a Christmas tree or chopping down a bunch of trees for firewood. Simply put just because the property is public domain doesn't entitle us to take or use it however we want.

    I fail to see how having a rule about staying on the paths or not taking antlers limits one's ability to teach their kids about nature. If anything they help serve as a lesson to why we can't take things from a public park. Of course if you want you can teach your kids about government overstepping it's boundaries and oppressing it's people you can do that too. Then you can take them home and teach them about the Bundy Ranch. :tu:
     
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    The same way a guy in Indiana can comment on deer hunting tactics for someone in Minnesota...or how an Arizona resident can discuss firearm rights issues in Illinois...or someone in Alaska can comment...never mind you get my point.

    I don't have to live in Illinois to understand the moronic rules (in some opinions) that come with preserve type ground, I hunt right beside one! I was instructed I couldn't even remove trash from the place despite the neighbor having used it as a dumping ground years a go...just ridiculous...but that is how it is, and as Fletch said anyone with a pulse can understand it would be illegal to do so or remove anything else I'd love to (found a massive dead head 2 years back....took pictures and left....sucked).
     
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    1. Your point is fallacy, because nearly everyone has been around ground with similar rules.

    2. Don't go there if you don't like the rules, sounds like you have options.


    This is a statement.
     

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