I've been debating on switching arrows this year. Everything I've read so far and have been told, the 5575 GT Pro's I'm shooting now are slightly underspined for the Destroyer 340 I'm shooting. The spine charts all say a 400 for my setup, however most are saying the Destroyer cams are classified as extra hard and like a stiffer spine. So, with that in mind, I may end up bumping up a notch in spine to a 340/350 shaft. I've been looking at the Victory Vforce arrows. Some are saying the spine tolerance is better than the Gold Tips. Most people are in agreement that spine tolerance is much more important than straightness specs. Not too many manufacturers are listing spine tolerances, only straightness. I've never really had an issue with the Gold Tips. I'm just thinking of trying a different arrow brand this year to see what else is out there. Anyway, my setup is this. Bowtech Destroyer 340 64lb at 28" draw length. Arrow length (shaft) is 27" Anyone have OT2 or TAP that could run those numbers for me? If not, any suggestions on what I should do here?
Im an Easton guy. Always know what I'm getting from them. I bet you would love the ACC Prohunters. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
The VForce V1's in the 350 spine will work perfectly for you if you cut to 27", use a 100gr point, and a Muzzy 50gr brass insert. I set my best bud up with this exact setup last year and they flew like darts.
Ah, thanks Matt. I appreciate you running that for me. I gotta get that app one of these days. Heckler, I may wind up with the GT's. The only reason I'm looking at some other brands is to see if I can "improve" my arrows. Gold Tips have had a history of not being very good in terms of spine consistency. I've heard the Victory's have been very good and even label the shafts with the stiff side of the spine. tfox, I would look at Easton, but honestly, I HATE the skinny arrows. I shot the Axis for a bit a long time ago and just never liked that configuration. Outside of the skinny shafts, Easton is very limited on selection.
This is exactly the change I'm going through this year, from the exact same spined GT's. Good place to ask though...I know bruce helped me a lot!
I understand Muzzy. If you are not a 60 yard, 3 in group shooter then I am not sure it will make a negligible if any improvement. In other words I don't believe you will see a difference. So unless you are a "badass", I wouldn't put much more thought into it. I don't consider myself in that "bad ***" classification. I can barely see a 3 inch circle at 60 yards... lol! Arrow selection is just as much work as you want it to be....
As is pretty much anything when it comes to hunting :D Great quote for sure, take out arrow and put in: food plots, bow selection, stand location, scent tactics...endless possibilities which is why I love this sport so much! It is adaptable to everyone's ability and time.
Heckler, spine consistency is a huge deal with fixed blade broadheads, even at 30 yards. Muzzy, the prohunters aren't what i would consider skinny shafts. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
Thats what I meant bud. I never really taken to the Axis style shafts. Seems Easton only produces shafts like this these days. I still like the standard diameter arrows myself. I agree with the spine consistency. This is why I'm investigating other shafts to see if there is something better than the GT pro in this category.
Any specific reason you don't like the smaller diameter arrows? I switched from the VForce V1's over to the VAP's and absolutely love them. There are a lot of advantages to them IMHO.
The ACC Prohunters are nothing like the Axis shafts(which I happen to like ) The Prohunters are an aluminum core wrapped by carbon. Best of both worlds. Same diameter as standard carbon shafts and use the HP insert instead of the H.I.T insert. Use whatever you like, just thought I would clarify in case there was some confusion. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
I built a set of gold tip velocity pros. I went one spine over (340 to 300) to compensate for a heavier head (100 to 125). this turned out to be a fantastic move. Currently all my arrows are 430 grains and have an FOC of 13%. They fly just fantastic. I have 155 grains of tip weight. Personally, I wouldn't add weights that you buy to the inserts. They are $4 each. I simply went to home depot, bought a few bolts, and cut them to size. That makes your weight slightly more consistent even. Arrow building is fun, but there's so many different routes you can go from super basic, to deep thought of each component. Look for a post I made over some arrows I built. I highly recommend this route. A lot of it depends on how your bow tunes. My bow simply wouldn't tune a 340 arrow with a 125 head and blazers, but also, fixed blade flight was very erradic. Not anymore.
Yep, there sure was confusion... on my part. I thought you were referring to the GT Pro Hunters. Matt, I dunno, I might have to revisit the small diameter shaft market again. Nothing particular I didn't like, just preferred the standard diameter shafts. Though, I bought the Axis right after they were released and they just didn't shoot well for me at all.
I shouldn't, but I'm gonna.... (there's a story behind this one that makes it a little special http://forums.bowhunting.com/showthread.php?33385-Stuck-a-Robinhood-First-in-a-while This I believe is the 20th or 21st of these, using these specific arrows, with 9 different bows.... A few of them were shot while setting sights up, some were shot while "group tuning," a few were shot when I should've been shooting at different spots. I've shot them from 24-43 yds. using these same arrows, and they've been as consistent as anything I've ever shot, including Maximas, Radial Weaves, and even your beloved Gold Tips.... The arrows are CHEAP Cabela's Carbon Stalker's which are a Beman/Easton shaft, which I generally have paid less than $65/dozen, sometimes as cheap as $50 when finished. Proof positive that you don't have to spend a fortune to get good arrows. And yes, you need a .340-350-ish spine with a little upfront weight for optimal arrow flight!!!
Muzzy, first of all i dont even know if this is an option or not, but instead of getting new arrows you could just tune your bow to your arrows, go 3lbs up or 3lbs down watch your groups get wider if you go the wrong way, and watch them get closer and closer when you go the right direction then keep you bow at that particular setup. I know thats basic stuff but on this forum someone normally hits the basics right off the bat so i figured id throw it in this time.
