Arrow leaving fletching marks on drop away rest

As I stated in an earlier post I'm getting back into bowhunting, and I switched out my old TM hunter for a drop away rest to accommodate carbon arrows. My arrows are leaving red color from the fletching on my drop away rest. It was my understanding that the rest would be out of the way when the fletching came through? Is this normal to see? If not what can I do to fix it? I haven't paper tuned it yet but I'm stacking arrows in the target to the point that I don't shot at the same spot for fear of ruining one(those suckers are 7 bucks a piece!). Broadheads shoot good except they are low compared to field points.

 

You need to move your arrow nock and d loop up. I have the same problem the string was shooting my arrow nock low. In other words it might need to be moved more then a 1/8 high on your nock point.

 

Where on the rest is it contacting? What rest is it? Did you or the shop install it?

My first step would be to look and see if you can eliminate the contact by rotating the nock. This has worked for me for 75% of my contact issues.

Second, I'd look to make sure the rest is timed right. It could be dropping too late.

I'd check on those first before moving your nocking point.

 

Dead center between the "prongs". The cock vane is hiting. This may be a stupid question but should I turn the cock vane up? On my sons new wisker bisket he had been shooting it with the cock vane down,like I've always done. Later at the shop they said to shoot it with the cock vane up because the black is stiffer. All this new stuff is new to me.
Its a QAD ultra rest hunter. The shop put it on.
How do you time the rest?
Sorry for the ignorant questions but I have to learn somehow. Thanks.

 

I'd try it CV up. It may give you the needed clearance. If not we can look at the timing next.

 

If you have a single cam it will make the arrow nock fly low. I have a qad and they are noted for vane contact. You will need to change the nocking point if you the odd vane up doesn't work.

 

I have a QAD and I shoot cock vane up and have no clearance issues. Do you push the rest up or let your draw pull it up?

 

I push it up.
Thanks for the help gang. I'll try cock vane up this afternoon and see how it does.

 

Cock vane up leaves two marks on each side of the rest.

 

Ok, try leaving the flapper down and slowly draw the bow back. Ideally (for most rests) the flapper should reach the full upright position when you are at the last 2" or so of your draw. If it pops up before then, the timing may be too long.

 

It does come up before the last two inches. Now what?

 

Problem that occurs with qad rests is the containment arm above the rest makes contact with the vane and forces it down creating contact on the bottom. On the hunter version the arm is removable try taking it off and shooting with the cock vane up and see what happens. A lot of guys don't like to remove the arm and the rest can be tuned so it works properly with it installed but try it just to see if that's the problem then you will have at least narrowed it down. Also the qad rests I've set up seem to work better with a high nocking point.

 

Here's the installation instructions. http://www.qadinc.com/UltraRest_Instructions.pdf

It also explains how to adjust the timing.

Before you adjust anything else, do the timing marks align at full draw (an image of how it should look is in the link above).

 

If the rest is moving to full up that early it is out of time. The easiest way to learn how to adjust th timing is go to YouTube. Sure could tell you here but watching it on YouTube will make it easy. Not a big deal to correct.

 

Any progress grnhd?

 

CV should always be up. paper tune next as broadhead low=paper tuning needed which may lead you to move your nock point up a smidge. Broadheads like a "nock high" position.

 

With a qad, it should be in the last 1" of draw or less

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Broadheads don't need a nock high position. They need a properly tuned bow.

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If it was mine......I would try shooting cock feather up. If that did not help I would adjust the timing to start the rest falling 1" from full draw. One of these should work. Unless the arrow is not about centered in the berger hole (rest mount hole) I would NOT move the nocking point. Then adjust the rest to shoot FP & BH the same.

 

Thanks for checking on me!
No,I'm away from home for work and wont be back home till Friday. But I'll be off all next week to play with it!

Someone mentioned shooting cock vane up.When I shot it cock vane up the fletching left two white marks were they hit the rest. If it needs to be full up at 1" from full draw then I need to adjust it because its hitting full up about 3" from full draw. I'll tinker with it when I get home. The odd thing is the bow is shooting really well for having arrow/rest contact.
Thanks for the help guys.