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Arrow grouping issues

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by italian85, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. bloodcrick

    bloodcrick Moderator/BHOD Prostaff

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    If your spined right, did you make sure your sight bubble was level when you sighted it in at 20? If not being off to one side will amplify the farther out you get.
     
  2. michael_pearce

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    absolutely incorrect the center shot is not the same on all bows or all mpdel from the same manufaturer.
    the offset of the riser changes the center shot the best advice you could give someone with an issue like he is having is to go to a well known pro shop and have them set up his bow.

    All this guy will remember is that when he shoots at the biggest deer of his life and misses is that he did what all of you are telling him to do and that it did not work for him even if the bad shot was his own mistake.

    I am not saying that you are wrong with your advice but why tell someone who clearly does not know how to work on his bow to do so.
     
  3. Hoosier Daddy

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    Doing what I mentioned was only a starting point to begin tuning
     
  4. brucelanthier

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    What is your definition of centershot?
     
  5. brucelanthier

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    Or maybe he shot at the deer 50 yards away because he read that it was OK to do that ;) .
     
  6. Greg / MO

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    LOL... After having known Bruce from the boards for close to two decades, I'll put his knowledge of how to set up a bow against any "pro" shop any day...

    And I've been in a LOT of pro shops across the country -- probably more than 99% of people ever will be. ;)
     
  7. michael_pearce

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    Ok then im sorry GOD of archery and hunting I did not realize you invented the aport and wrote all of the rules we should follow.
    By the way im not a tech and I do not work on my own bow I pay a very educated person to do that.
    But then again i dont pretend to know everything either.
    By the way bruce center flight is measured by the distance from the inside of the riser to the center of the string if im not mistaken but you would know since you design and build the bows for every company out there. Man u should write a book and have a show so we could all learn the RIGHT way to do things.

    Oh one more thing read before you post please. I clearly DO NOT advocate shooting out of your know range but then again accoroding to you a person should never shoot over 20 yards.
     
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  8. brucelanthier

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    You are not a tech and do not even work on your own bow but give advice about doing the same? I don't know if that is pretending or not but it sure is interesting LOL.

    Even by your definition, centershot would be identical on the same model of bow so now you are disputing yourself? More interesting.

    Enjoy your day.
     
  9. michael_pearce

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    Wow you really dont read do you?
    My advice was to go to a pro and not do it him self
    Also i said it is not the same on different models but no i dont believe every bow is identical
     
  10. brucelanthier

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    I read just fine, especially the dozens of threads complaining about incompetent pro shops. Heck, even in this thread it was implied that the pro shop that did set his bow up with a laser did it incorrectly. So, advice to go to a pro shop, which he did originally to get his bow set up would imply that maybe others in this thread don't read to well or maybe comprehend what is written.
     
  11. italian85

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    Alright guys, didn't mean to stir up any problems. To help clear up any further questions about my set up, i am shooting an Elite Hunter, 28" DL, 55# DW - shooting Carbon express Piledriver hunter 250's, .402 spine, 10.4gpi @ 26.5 inches long. I believe that the spine of these arrows are correct from the arrow charts i looked at. As for the whole laser tool, i believe that this tool was just not used 100% properly and that the arrow was out of line by less then an 1/8th inch. I did not use the whole string method either, i just tweeked my rest a smidge to the left and now im shooting nice groups at all distances.
     
  12. bvillmek79

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    Sounds like your rest is out of tune. What you were doing is called walk back tuning. It is a really good way to tell if your rest is out of center. Just try moving your rest to the left a little be and the problem should be taken care of. Good Luck and shoot straight.
     
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    Glad i could help , it sounded to me without seeing your bow that they didnt get your rest set back to where it was supposed to be , see you didnt have to crank your limb bolts around BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT SPINE .....lol
     
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    i think someone was wrong ...............hmmm it was the rest all along..........lol
     
  15. brucelanthier

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    No, moving the rest tuned the bow and arrow but turning down DW, shortening the arrow, changing tip weight and more would accomplish the same thing. What was wrong was the dynamic spine was weak and something needed to be adjusted to correct that.

    When you told the other poster to turn down the DW to correct a stiff spine why didn't you tell him to move his rest instead of adjusting DW?
     

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