Arizona bill letting businesses deny service for religious reasons sparks heated debate | Fox News Top Stories - Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Allowing Businesses to Discriminate against Gays - AllGov - News This is even too far right for me. Crazy bill IMO. Can you imagine the backlash in the media? Conservatives have gone too far in this case.
I mean...I have no problem with private business owners being able to run their business however they like. If they are dumb enough to turn away profit for whatever ridiculous beliefs they might have, they should have that right.
I have no problem with it. I think the government forcing us to buy something is more scary than giving private businesses the option whether to do business with whoever they choose. No shirt, no shoes, not straight - no service.
What a hypocritical position then. The same business can’t hire or fire based on those protected categories, why should they be able to choose who they sell their product to? If a business wants to do it and risk the law suit than fine. Let the courts decide if it is OK or not. We don't need a bill to say that it is OK.
They should be able to... Pretty sure that is the reason for the bill, is that the courts ruled that the business should have the right.
I have no problem with it. If someone wanted to deny me service for religion/race/nationality/gender, meh... I'll take my business elsewhere.
What if it is a critical service that is not offered elsewhere? Or causes gays to spend significantly more for that service or even much lesser quality service? My religion is I can't be in the presentence of any African Americans so therefore I can put a sign out saying no blacks?
"They should be able to" ............ What? Employers should be able to discriminate based on age sex creed etc.?
Tolerance is important...to an extent. I have not read the entire bill. My two cents will mostly be speculative. Employees have a basic right or rights...if hired and when working. The business decisions are outside that relationship. If business X determines to not sell to a consumer for ANY reason, that business should not have lawsuit liabilities. From my POV suing a business because "they" don't give you what you want is nonsense. There are other options to find what you need to "fit your style". I will not be told who I do or do not conduct business with and I will decide who I will and will not place into an employed position. After all it is "my business" not the governments or the publics. With that said I do like to be profitable when it does not bleed over on established principals. Losing business happens and you can not please everyone.
No, using the word employer turns the conversation into an employer discriminating against their employees, which is not allowed. This bill is only centered around a private business and their customers. Employer discrimination and customer discrimination are very different things.
You guys are all correct with your opinions on the subject no matter which side you are on. It is nice to see a thread where both sides are on topic. And I agree, I think a business has the right to refuse service to anyone for whatever the reason. It goes both ways (except for healthcare) I can choose who I want to spend my money with.
It should be signed. Numerous businesses have been put out of business because they refused to cater to homosexual commitment ceremonies due to religous beliefs. The homosexual lobby purposefully targets these businesses because they want to spotlight the individuals business because they do not conform to todays abnormal social behaviors. If the homosexuals had real conviction in there lifestyle they would let the free market sink these "intolerant" businesses.
Why does an employee have every right protected but a consumer does not? Can’t the employee take their employment elsewhere just like a consumer take their business elsewhere?
It is a different relationship, involving payroll, taxes, etc. A consumer falls into a different category.
When the courts have to spend millions of taxpayer dollars on these lawsuits I would have to disagree. All this is doing is protecting economic freedom at the state level.
When then if we need to write bills to prevent frivolous lawsuits let’s start with preventing businesses from getting all kinds liability lawsuits before writing laws so a dumbass can refuse to sell a coffee to a gay.
