If homosexuality is such a terrible sin, then why did God create individuals who like those of the same sex? It absolutely makes no logical sense why someone would purposefully create something, then ask that person who under no fault of their own are homosexual, to live a life full of misery by failing to act upon those very instincts programmed pre birth via dna. DUMB.
Not trying to argue...looked to me that Brett had asked a question. Perhaps it was rhetorical, that's OK. I'd expect few to look up the verses too, but it's what many believe (without walking the whole crimson thread). ps. Not going to comment on Olsteen. Pps. And to non believers, I'm sure it makes no sense or is nonsense.
I am starting a new business venture. A church that only allows gays and lesbians. Most don't have to support children...so think of all the disposable income that's available to tap!! All I have to do is rewrite the gospels a bit ....
I don't think it's that God created individuals to like those of the same sex. What God did was create us with the ability to engage in a variety of sexual acts. A grew up fairly naïve about sex. Don't misunderstand. My mother taught me all about sex (and marriage) at a very early age. But it was about being a virgin when you married and then what you and your husband do together. Also, my fellow students at the schools I attended were from working class families, so it wasn't fashionable to be gay or transgender or something like that. Some of the guys would kid other guys about being gay or something, but I didn't know it was popular in some circles. A couple months before we married, my husband introduced me to a hunting website and I started participating in the forums and chat. So he had to explain to me what some of the references meant. Like what does it mean if someone had an inflatable girlfriend? So it's clear to me that you are not "born that way," you are just born with the ability to do it that way. In other words one is born with the ability to be flexible with regard to sex. It's well known, for example, that clearly heterosexual men, sent to prison, will freely engage in same sex relations while in prison, and then revert to girls when released. And as far as sin is concerned, I think there are a lot of worse things one can do than engage in sex with someone of the same sex, although I don't approve of homosexual behavior.
What about people with bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia. ..did God create them or did they choose to have a serious mental disorder?
I'm sorry. I don't think I get your point. As far as we know, people don't choose to be mentally ill. We were talking about sex, not neurological anomalies. Sex is a physiological drive like hunger and thirst. One can satisfy those drives in different ways. Some folks like raw fish, others much prefer a thick, medium rare steak. Some folks keep beer in the refrigerator, others will jump in the car and head out for a Starbucks latte. I don't think men prefer an inflatable girlfriend. It has to be some sort of replacement type thing like taking the bus while your car is in the shop. But there is a distinct advantage to being gay. Male promiscuity makes it much easier to hook up with another guy than to achieve the same results with a female, unless you're willing to pay. Please don't disagree with me here. The rapid spread of HIV among gay men makes my point obvious. So, if you can handle being gay, you won't be posting the complaints of frustration that I sometimes see posted by married men. My mother taught me that a traditional Japanese wife does not get headaches. I will teach my daughters the same. But apparently not all mothers do this.
If you don't have a relationship with Jesus all this stuff is simply alien to you. No one who doesn't know Christ and read the word can never understand what we believe or live by. People that truly live out the bible word for word do not judge people, we simply believe want is written and have the right to voice what is written. Just like others have the right of free speech(which IMO these days don't apply to Christians) because if we are against the way someone lives because it goes against our believe we are the wrong ones. Jesus though us to love people no matter what they do, we are not to hit them over the head with a bible because if we believe what is written God is in control of there judge and wrong doing. If we judge we will be judged for not helping the person, because we chose to push them even farther away from God. Jesus was the best example of how to treat people and we are to be conformed into is image.
Not to continue any argument but to explain what the Bible says rather. According to the Bible, God created perfection (Adam and Eve). Adam and Eve CHOSE to sin which created the accountability of sin, which is death and despair. Only through Christ can you defeat death (again, according to the Bible). From their sin on, the cycle of life (food chain) began, being a sinner from the womb became relevant, and so on. Before sin, there were no predators or prey (death), no homosexuality, no sin of any kind. All people are born sinners (regardless if they are gay, have a mental illness, end up a murderer, whatever) but when it comes to children or the mentally ill who are unable to comprehend salvation, the Bible says that they will be saved by the grace of God because only God knows everyone's individual accountability.
I have some friends of mine...twins. They are both homosexual. The female from an early age felt she was trapped in a mans body and the male the same. Both of them from an early age exhibited opposite sex characteristics. Even if you believe the Bible word for word, don't you believe there is a snowballs chance in hell that those two had parts of their dna mismatched in the womb and it wasn't done by God to see if they could "fight out of being Gay"? And you know what, Im tired of people saying, "you just wouldnt understand unless you live the Bible word for word"...give me a darn break. There ain't a guy/gal on here that lives the Bible word for word.
At conception, you have all the DNA you will ever have. You are a complete, living human being, as complete as you will ever be. You just need to grow and learn to hunt. There is no "swapping" of DNA in utero, not between identical twins, not between fraternal twins. I am not a Christian and I do not accept the authority of the Bible. But I do believe in a creator and I disapprove of homosexuality because I believe it is not the way the creator intended for us to live. I am also a biologist and I consider homosexual sex to be biologically inappropriate.
Being a homosexual is a choice not a DNA problem I've known the same type of people as your friends that turned from being a homosexual returned to God repented of there sin and is married with kids now. We were all born into sin it is up to us to not live it it and no one is perfect like Jesus was your right he was sinless but my day to day is to be better and better believing, living, and preaching what I believe in the bible which is (everything) I don't pick and choose what it says I believe and I follow it. Of course I mess up but I learn not to mess up the same why again, we all do this in Christianity.
