Apple vs FBI - San Bernardino terrorist situation

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John McAfee Reveals To FBI, On National TV, How To Crack The iPhone (RT Interview) - YouTube

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He's a joke to the software world, but he's not wrong, I have used software that disassembled dll's all the time.
Apple already has a way in, they will do it for you and me for family member who has passed away.




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Yea my wife works for a bank. They report SAR's. Suspicious Activity Reports to the government. You can't even withdraw 5k from your accts without the gov. knowing. Pretty sad.

 

My biggest thing with this whole thing is who has to give anything away. Say hey apple unlock this one phone and that's it. Pretty sure they can do it anyway and as far as any of us no there's no abuse being done. To me there's no privacy rights in this situation, they know who's line it is and what they did.

 

Jrk that's how I feel, I don't understand a privacy issue for a terrorist and non US citizen. The fbi went through the courts and at least tried to do it right, lol. Sorry this is not 1776, how would they deal with a hacker from his bedroom, could cripple the entire electrical grid? Shutting down the DOW? It's easy to post quotes, but there is also reality.


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My point is that you can not ask a person their immigration status at a traffic stop or LEO interface, yet when I am not driving a LEO can ask to see my drivers license?

 

See I don't even get all bent out of shape about that, it's a form of ID, why would you wanna hide who you are. I haveta show my license buying a can of chew and I'm not driving.

 

Interesting read - Congress tells FBI that forcing Apple to unlock iPhones is 'a fool's errand' | Technology | The Guardian

 

One person's phone isn't the issue, the government wants a universal hack so they can legally get into anyone's phone at any time without help.

 

Apple has done it before so we know they can. So what is the real problem. That the public knows that Apple devices are not as secure as they would like the public to believe? Seems like if they could keep it out of public they would have no problem violating another's security themselves.

Is requiring a warrant enough for the process to be run on a phone enough?

Best just to be safe and not have anything on your phone you wouldn't want anybody knowing about.

 

I want to read the documentation on the above, do you have it?


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You'll have to email your request to the FBI.

 

Exactly


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Terms that have been used in all this mess are confusing. I don't think Apple has to "decrypt" the phone. They just need to turn off the auto delete function if a passcode is attempted too many times. Although they probably have to unlock the phone first.

My only point is more American lives could be at stake. The longer this goes on in court, the more time the "bad guys" have to move or change anything they are doing so getting the data at this point could be worthless when months ago it could have been valuable. If Apple is as security concise as they say they are, unlock this phone and be done with it.

If you have Facebook on your phone, you must have the location services turned on at all times to use it. Recently all of a sudden every time I go to leave where I'm at, my iPhone 6 automatically tells me how long it takes to get home or where it thinks I'm going. I don't think I turned on that feature. Whatever....... If the government wants to see my internet history, who I email, what games I play, who I'm texting go for it. It's gonna be pretty boring. All of it is already monitored anyway.

 

CoveyMaster is right. At first the FBI says that this shouldn't create a precedent but did an about face in comments to Congress and admitted that it "probably" would.

Does anyone REALLY believe that law enforcement-not just the FBI-would let it go at one phone? There have been reports of nearly 100 phones across the country that various law enforcement agencies wish to get into. Every single one of them will try to get those phones unlocked.

 

If they have the probable cause to get a warrant, why shouldn't they be able to?

 

I actually changed my tune on this a little. Moving more toward the middle.

Not sure if this was covered, but it sounds like the FBI was never trying to gain the actual technology to break in. They just wanted the information on the phone and then Apple could destroy everything. That seems pretty reasonable in my book, especially when it comes to this particular event.

Yes, a precedent could be set, but they could also find out valuable information.

 

I haven't really been following this too closely, but generally I don't feel like big brother needs to have back doors onto your personal devices. However, it they have a search warrant, then they have the right to access someone's personal content whether that is things in one's home, documents on computers or information on cell phones. They have people hired to break in and sift through a personals personal computer, I'm quite certain they have the same type of people doing that to cell phones already.

 

They have a warrant and they could do what they want with the phone. If they can't figure it out, I don't believe Apple should be forced to work for the government. Especially when it can hurt the reputation of their product.
They can probably do it easily, I don't know. Nobody wants to protect terrorists, but I can't blame Apple for fighting this.