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Another Reason Schools Should Look Harder Into Bullying

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  1. USFAN51473

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    This whole bullying thing is a scam. This Poor kid was a victim of two bit scumbag thugs, criminals.
     
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    That is just sad. You would think with the internet these days and more and more stuff being publicized and filmed by phones it would cause some kids to think twice but I guess not.
     
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    My oldest daughter who is 11 now was a victim of bullying in first grade. I picked her up from school and she was crying. I asked her what happened. Three boys held her down in the recess yard. One of them straddled her and started choking her. I asked if the teachers intervened. She said no. She was able to get away but they threatened her if she told. I went ballistic. I marched right into the principal's office and demanded action be taken. I also took her out in the back yard that very night and taught her basic self defense tactics. I told her if they ever try it again. To use it. Three weeks later the same thing happened. Again I went to the principal's office. But this time I told her if action was not taken, they would be hearing not from me but from my lawyer. Amazingly all three were expelled. Imagine that.
     
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    I'm shocked and amazed at the bullying that takes place in schools these days. My son is 9 and I can't even begin to fathom what I've heard and the actions of some said 9 year olds. Of course this is in Naperville, IL and after seeing how disconnected these yuppie parents are it makes sense. Went to his game last night and I set in the back row and just watched how many parents couldn't take the eyes of their IPhones long enough to watch their son bat. The kids are raising themselves these days. The parents are to blame. I know my son takes a lot of heat at school because he is raised with manners and not given every electronic gadget out there. I know he feels left out a lot. Heck, my exwife doesn't even have cable. She doesn't believe in it and I have no problem with that. Other than I'm staying there this week and I'm about to have ESPN withdrawls.
     
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    Alot of times it goes unreported. Mainly because the child feels its their fault or fears repercussions of telling someone. The only reason I found out what happened to my kid, is because I had to pull it out of her. She did not want to tell either. I really annoys me that this goes on. What the hell are the teachers on the playground doing. My guess is playing Words With Friends when they should be watching the kids.
     
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    Bullying is not something new. I would guess it has been going on as long as there has been society. I do believe that bullies need to be dealt with, but I also think society has pansified the children of America. I have seen many reports where the kids that defend themselves when they are bullied get expelled from school too. What kind of message is that sending? Yet, if we teach our kids not to defend themselves, we are raising them to be lambs to be taken to slaughter. Until the people stand up and correct this issue, it will go on and on. You should also hold the parents of the bullies responsible for their kids' actions, except that too in not politically correct. Bullies become bullies because they either are emulating one of their parents or they lack parenting.
     
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    Agreed. Even when I was in school (you know, when dinosaurs roamed the earth) it existed. But not to the level is exists today.
     
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    Hell, I'm only 31 and it didn't exist like it does today. Some part of the process is seriously broken.
     
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    But let's be serious, if the kid went and killed himself, he's not that stable in the first damned place... He probably never had self-esteem instilled into him, and probably wasn't taught very well how to defend himself, etc.... Part of fixing the bullying problem is fixing our kids, both the bullies and the "bullied." Both of my girls are outspoken, stand up for others and themselves, and have strong personalities, but that's something my wife and I instilled into them. We also instilled into them that IF someone is being "mean to you," then to tell them to stop, if you get hit, tell a teacher, if that doesn't work, then you hit back. I live in the "country" and my kids go to a "country school," and sure there's bullying there as well, but I think it's better than city schools because "country" kids seem to be a little nicer to each others from my experience, smaller schools, a lot more people seem to know each other, and the last thing a kid wants to deal with is his/her dad putting a whooping on his but for being a little schit at school....

    Suicide is NEVER that answer, and in all honesty, a COWARD'S WAY out of a problem....

    Getting deeper into the issue is the number of kids that are being raised without parenting, because they only have one parent, because both parents are working all the time, or for whatever reason. As parents WE must take time to mold our children, guide them, and help them grow up to be productive members of society. When we fail to provide them that guidance, we fail them and society in general!!!
     
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    I would think slavery could be considered a form of bullying so imo it is no where as bad today as in years and centuries past.

    My son had someone try it when he was in the 6th grade. One fist to the eye put a stop to it. He got 3 days in a detention school but it was settled.

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    As much as I hate agreeing with Doug, :D 100% THIS.

    I believe there was parental failure all the way around...
     
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    I agree. But sometimes the fact is there is only one parent. Who has to work double shifts to make ends meet. In those situations, its up to the parent to have someone trusworthy watch and mold the kids.
     
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    Yep...we are seeing the fall of mankind ... it started with a rejection of God, and the family has fallen as they are a picture of relationship ....
     
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    This is where, when people are looking for someone to play "hide the weinie" with, they should be making sure that person is one that they could marry, raise a child with, spend the rest of their lives with. I know it's tough to be responsible, but that's really what it takes, and even working doubles, whatever it may be, there still is time for parenting and guidance. I know someone will say the WORST kids were "church kids" in response, but I truly believe that religion also helps. I know most of the kids I went to church with still attend the same church as adults, ALL of them are responsible, societal contributors that have gone far in their lives, be it the lawyer, the couple of school teachers, the entrepreneur, the nurses, etc. Removing GOD from this country, is part of the steps to DESTROYING it. And the atheists that disagree can go get bent. Certainly there are more than enough "Sunday Christians" that act the part on Sunday and then plan to earn their forgiveness the rest of the week. But I'm sure there are a few here that are Christians on all the days that end in "Y" also. For that matter, MOST organized religions, be it Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhists, teach VALUES as their "cornerstone." Kids NEED our guidance, they don't need the "right to express themselves" with tattoos, weird piercings, odd make-up, odd clothing, etc... If they are LOVED and guided, they won't do these things in the first place.... Not saying they should all wear uniforms and look the same, but when a BOY is wearing black eye-liner, black nail polish, and has 1" guages in his ears, someone somewhere along the line has failed him....
     
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    Well thats not very christian like.




    Actually it is.
     
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    I love you. Never leave this forum.
     
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    Doug ... "get bent"??? I have to agree with Vito .... too much of that type of talk coming out of people that name the name of Christ...

    Don't look at people for how a Christian is supposed to act, Hooker, Vito, and Bruce .... look to Christ ... all to often it is completely different...
     
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    Didn't Jesus overturn some tables and throw some people out of "His Father's House???" But in all seriousness, those atheists, near as I can tell by my beliefs, ARE going to "get bent," or go to hell.... Aren't they??? :evilgrin: Jesus was compassionate and loving, but he also had a bit of an angry side, tell it like it is side, he wasn't all about turn the other cheek all of the time...
     

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