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Another Obamacare success story

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  1. patientz3ro

    patientz3ro Weekend Warrior

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    I'd suggest using leeches. They're just as effective as traditional bleeding, but you don't have to deal with the neighbors calling the cops every time you take a jar of people juice out to the trash. SUPER convenient, and less messy, too. Plus, when you're done, you can use them for fishing! Talk about reducing waste, what could possibly be "greener" than that?

    By the way, I hear prefrontal leucotomy is making quite a comeback in Washington D. C. lately.


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    Has this story been vetted? Never mind I forget we just blindly post crap on the internet without know if it's true or not.

    Profit margin means nothing, it's all about how many margin dollars you get in a business. You can have a business with a high profit margin, I'll take one with more margin dollars:)

    As Todd Graf what he wants in a business, more profit margin or margin dollars.

    Here is first part of the story, left out

    Since the Savannah, Ga., resident qualifies for a subsidy, she can get a silver level plan for about $50 a month. While she's not thrilled that she'll have to shell out for deductibles and co-pays, she is relieved she'll have coverage again soon.

    "Being able to go to the doctor...it's so worth it," said Smith-McKeithen, who has not been able to get details on specific plans yet. "For me and my family, this will work out perfectly until I get a job and have other coverage."
     
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  3. tfox

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    Profit margins are important for stability. The higher the margin, the more secure said buisness is.

    Low profit margin means one catastrophe from bankruptcy.

    I agree that more profit dollars adds security as well but the buisness is assuming much more risk when their profits are low.

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    I'm still interested in knowing how the subsidy is going to be payed.

    These people are the ones that need help. I'm all for it. Obamacare is not the way to do it. They all ready have medicaid and such. I'm totally against "helping" those that have made a living off sponging off others.

    Anyone know what happened to insurance rates just after this was signed into law. I witnessed immediate rate increases and assume others did as well.

    Rate increases did level off to pre law increases but the damage had been done from what i witnessed.

    I would love to see the actuall numbers.






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    I notice increase every year in insurance:).
     
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    That wasn't what I meant.

    There seemed there was a substantially higher increase than normal immediately after the bill passed.

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    I think the above shows the real problem. Rates increase faster than cost of living of 3% to 4%

    Pay isn't keeping up with cost of living(as well as jobs) so issues of healthcare and gas prices have a huge effect on people's bottom line.

    What I have been talking about with jobs and economy seem, atleast in my minds eye to be dead on what we need. A stronger economy will go a long way in atleast controlling these issues, if not fixing them.

    And imo, more entitlements do more to hurt a growing economy than fix a stagnant one.

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    We also post blindly without thinking critically about what's being said. For example, she hasn't seen any details on the plans, but she's really happy to get coverage... Despite not knowing what she gets or how much it's going to cost.

    If that's not enough, read the last sentence again. It's a stopgap at best.

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    Just reviewed my health care providers rates for the upcoming year (our open season is in Nov.) and it is exactly as predicted, a 23% hike in my portion which equals $70 per pay period or $152 per month. Last year the spike was 19%, the 13 years prior to that we did see increases(averaging around 6%) but nothing like this. Just in out of pocket insurance premiums I have seen an increase for 2013 and 2014 of about $265 per month. That's not peanuts especially when you take into consideration the ongoing pay freezes and the fact that the govt. no longer has cost of living raises. Essentially many people are seeing their pay being locked in at a 3-4 year old rate while costs continue to go up.
     
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    You dont think obamacare is going to lower medicaid do you?

    Obamacare has already signed more up for it.

    Again, the point that we are paying monthly for those less fortunate instead of only when they need help has to be brought up.

    Something major will have to happen for obamacare to be good for this country.

    As of now, it quite possibly is the largest tax increase ever in the history of the US.

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    $1.00 a pack tax increase. That's assenine.

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