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Another frivolous lawsuit...

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by 2 Lunger, Aug 23, 2012.

  1. 2 Lunger

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    Oh, come on. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying we've gone since the day baseball was invented without pitchers wearing chest protectors and now we have sissied it down to every player will be wearing hockey gear out on the field. If you think it is that dangerous for you child to be playing baseball then you should probably take them off the field and sign them up badminton.
     
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    It's called reaction time. Kids don't have the physical ability to get out of the way. This could have been a head shot that would have been instant death.

    I'll post more when i have time.

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    The chest protector is nothing more than a 1/2" thick piece of foam that is in an under armour type shirt that is placed directly over the heart. Not like what the catcher wears. Hell, maybe the catcher should be back there with no gear on either.

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    My son pitched and played 3rd so he never stepped on the small field without one on. Because unlike many of the posters here. I know what these kids are facing with the exit speeds of the bats.

    In all seriousness, the 12u age group is way more dangerous than the high school field/ age group.

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    That shuttle cock could take an eye out;)

    Again if my daughter or son pitch or played 3rd they will have a chest protector.

    We can post cock, lol
     
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    Here is something I found on the bpf certification that LL uses. It gets into the trampoline effect of the bats as well as the flaws of the rating system which is known by both LL and the bat manufactures.

    IMO LL needs to have 12 u players on 50' mounds and 70' bases.(50-70)(they are at 46-60 now) Along with instituting a max drop weight. (The weight to length ratio) -9 or -10 bats should be the max.That would slow down bat speeds.

    Here is the article.


    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_BPF_1.15_on_a_baseball_bat

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    Technology has made the game a much more dangerous game today.

    The ball is being hit at well over a 100 mph at many times during a game. Could you get out of the way from 46' ? How about when you were 12 or 13

    If LL were actually trying to make/ keep the game safe, that would protect them from a lawsuit imo, but they are driven by money and safety is not their top priority, and it should be.I's not just LL. All the governing bodies of youth baseball are doing the exact same thing.

    I, for one, am glad to see some changes being made.


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    That's what she said.
     
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    couldnt have said it better. Its sad that all those parties got screwed over but when we have a murderer on trial they always seem to find a way out.
     
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    Sporting goods store shouldn't even be mentioned,they are selling what LL has deemed safe.

    I think more investigations need to be done to see how much the manufactuers are driving the safety standards used.

    LL,knows the dangers and the downfalls of the saftey standards they use and set in place,they should have made changes years before this and other incidents happened.
     
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    What sticks out to me in this story is that the people doing the CPR sucked at it. They should be sued. As well as the city for not have defibrillators handy.


    (I'm being facetious.)
     
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    Sure it does.

    Here is another one. What if a parent had no idea about all the stuff you know about TFOX....you know all the baseball secret safety stuff. What if that parent bought the "hot bat" and sent a group of kids outside to play baseball at a local church with the "hot bat". And what if one of the kids playing the pick up game of baseball got hurt because of some super secret "hot bat"? Would the parent be liable? Would the church be liable for not putting a locked fence around their baseball park? Would the sporting goods store be liable for selling the "hot bat" to an uninformed buyer?
     
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    Thats part of the problem. Most parents think since LL and Babe Ruth and all other youth organizations deem them safe, then the parents will not know any different. As evident in this thread. The high end bats today are not safe. This is why they were sued and why changes are the being made.

    Imo, their not doing enough, fast enough.

    Thank goodness college and high school realized it.
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    Don't get me started ..... :lol:
     
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    I injured my hand badly two years ago using a 1/2 HP drill in an unsafe way. The switch stuck and the drill wouldn't shut off and had no anti-coasting feature on it. The drill was probably 60-70 years old and had been left by my father-in law after his death. You would not believe the lawyer friends (church members) I had who came out of the woodwork to try to get me to sue the manufacturer. They saw an opportunity to get some cash... they tried to make it seem like they were helping me. That's how the game is played and it is just wrong. JMO
     

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