I think the problem is that most folks start with a poorly made arrow and then shoot it out of a poorly tuned bow and that is why the BH is not as accurate as it can be.
I can't imagine anyone arguing with you on this. I asked your advice last year... took it... adjusted my spine and my FOC... did what you suggested and now get amazing arrow flight with any broadhead I have tried and the only effect I see from the wind is caused by the wind pushing my bow arm, not the arrow flight itself.
Muzzy Man, Thanks for the post. I agree with you, as my field points do fly like my Rage broadheads, and flew like the killzones. So I know it can happen, but many will fail to test it, which is a problem. I shoot a heavier arrow too as I am a 27.5 inch draw so high speed just is not going to happen! That being said. NAP bloodrunner 3 blade is always 1 inch low, about .5 inch to the right of by other heads at 20 yards. Not a big difference, but consistently different. I have also noticed that the Tekan and the Montec were a little left but dead on up and down. They fly consistent, and fly true, but they do not fly the same as the Rage or Killzone. That is more what I meant. I think some think a broadhead will fly like a field tip meaning always hit the same spot, but I feel manufacturers are more referring to how accurate they are once your set up is tuned and sighted in to that specific head. I could be way off. Its happened before!
I agree, but disagree in my situation. If the arrow penetrated eventhough thye shot was slightly high, the deer would be dead. I also disagree with the statement that the arrow would penetrate more if the broadhead didnt expand. So I'll chalk it up to an unreliable bh.
Unless you hit bone. I find it extremely hard to believe that you did not get any penetration at 8 yards due to anything pertaining to broadhead performance. I feel fairly confident that I could put a blunt through a deer at 8 yards with a hit in the right spot. So, are you saying that an unopened mechanical head, using no energy on impact to open, will not out penetrate an opened head, which used energy on impact to open?
Read my post, 30 yd shot, not 8, it was an 8 ptr at 30 yds.And I said, one of the only things I could think of is I hit a rib bone straight on. My Montec would have punched right through that rib bone. And yes an unopend mech that is not coc will penetrate less then an opend mech with cutting blades engaged, especially the design of the T3 if you are not familiar.
As much as we try... I am not sure we ever quite arrive at a "perfect tune." There is a point where you have just got to go with it. At .5 inch, I doubt I would give much more thought to it. that's barely more than the diameter of your arrow shaft. It could be tuned out and probably should if you take shots at 40-50 yards but whether mechanical or fixed is far from the issue at that point. One way I have found to get that final tune is to increase my tuning distance which maginfies the differences in arrow flight. Just keep in mind the longer the distance, the smaller the adjustments. I am certain if all else is correct, those last few differences can be tuned out as well.
i have another twist here... although ive never shot at a deer elk whatever, ive hit and killed varmint and predators with muzzy heads and homemade blunt-like heads. i use a muzzy converted 2 blade,3blade, and 4 blade. of the 3, i love the 2 blade the most, why ? because when im practicing i prefer to use a broadhead over a point for a couple reasons, i shoot them in the wind so i know where theyre going, and i shoot them over and over to fine tune them or the bow. one huge issue i had, was using the carpet target, id unscrew the bh and remove the shaft, glue dust would cover the insert, and cause the arrow to be untrue.. at 40 yards, 3 bh arrows would touch eachother at 40 yards ( 2 blade ) 3- 3blades would be 3 inches, and the same for the 4 blades muzzy broadheads are soo cheap, yet so durable, its pathetic...one of my practice 3 blades has been shot through my carpet target100+ times, plywood blacking, dirt, hillside, pigeons, and even an suicidal aluminum livewell, and the head just keeps going. bend the blades and throw it back on the arrow and dont think twice. forgive me for replying as to ( what i would use ) but i guess this is why i wouldnt change to other broadheds. not to mention, most of the big game hunters i know use muzzy and have shared stories about other companies and how their stuff failed, their story comes from first hand encounters
I'm with Bruce. Bow tuning is key. I've shot a bunch of fixed BH's over the years, never had an issue ever of them not flying perfectly, and with my FP's...once I learned how to tune a bow. That said, to answer the OP's question....I personally won't shoot any mechanicals. Sure, lots of deer are killed each year with them, and with good shot placement most will work fine. However, in the case of an errant shot for whatever reason, your odds go way down with a mech head. I want all the chances I can get for maximum penetration, and that ain't gonna be with a mechanical. I think more folks use mechanicals as a band-aid for a poorly tuned bow than anything. I hate that. A poorly tuned bow is just that, regardless of the bh you use. I've seen some unbelievable penetration with COC fixed 2 blade heads (I personally have used Magnus with great success), cases where no mechanical would have a chance. Right now I'm shooting slick tricks and love em. Muzzys always work well, killed quite a few with them too. Heck, I've even used a mongo Snuffer with perfect flight.
So far over the past ten years I have used: NAP Thunderheads 125. I used these with my original hand me down bow and wanted to hit them with something big since I wasn't pulling back much weight. i have nothing bad to say about them. When I purchased my new Bowtech in 2008 I wanted a quick arrow speed. I have and continue to use: Muzzy 100 gr 3 blade. They are tried and true and have never had a problem I also use NAP 2 & 3 blade bloodrunners and I have never had a problem with them either. I suppose I am have been rather lucky.
So how many times in a row do you have to hit where you aim and successfully recover your game before you call it skill?
