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Another broadhead question.....with a twist

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Stubert, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. Stubert

    Stubert Weekend Warrior

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    There are a million threads on what is the best broadhead, so many, that you can't wade trough them. How about a thread about what broadhead you WON"T use and why. Tell us why you don't like it, how it failed, what problems you had, etc.................... could be interesting??????????
     
  2. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

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    Not a rage fan just from design including flimsy blades and questionable deployment. *I'll specify this is my opinion based off of seeing broadheads recovered from shots on animals, inspection to the eye and just reading up on them. Some people love them though.

    I also have come to not want to use COC heads incase of bone contact...not that I plan on hitting bone, but if I do I want the best penetration possible and a razor blade type tip just won't do it. Now a forged single bevel solid broadhead with a tanto tip will blow through it (or even the hellrazor style would do decent I'm sure).
     
  3. cmonsta

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    As the corny little rhyme in my signature states, I won't use expandables. Just don't see a reason to take the risk. The only advantages I see are saves 10 mins max of tuning, and is a bit better in wind. I'm pretty sure anyone can find 10 mins (and if not you shouldn't be bowhunting because clearly you do not practice often enough) and on windy days I limit my shots as I see put (wouldn't shoot at a whitetail past 40 yards even on a calm day, and even that has a bunch of other rules before I decide its ethical). In reality, is it really worth the risk of using any head that has to open or expand or whatever? So many things can already go wrong in bow hunting and most of us know they normally do go wrong. So why add to the list? I shoot a solid, 1 piece strong broad head and pretty sure that will be my plan for a while. With my set up, theres not alot of heads I shouldn't use. I don't think there's a head out there that wouldn't be recommended to me. But, I chose to play it safe and smart, and shoot what is proven to always be open and ready before it makes contact with the target.
     
  4. Joe Soil

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    I WILL NOT shoot rage ever, they penetrate just awfully, definitely better heads on the market
     
  5. Oly44

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    Nice i didnt notice you put that in your signature. :tu:
     
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    I will not use any fixed blade head, and I don't care how unpopular my opinion. The quality of mechanical broadheads has come a long way in recent years. The biggest advantage they offer is forgiveness. Sure, you can tune your bow to shoot fixed heads under ideal conditions. But when shooting leaning from a treestand, with heavy clothes and gloves on, at a deer behind the tree, your form is going to suffer, and so is your fixed broadheads flight. A mechanical head is more likely to stay on course due to less surface area.
    I much prefer rear deploying models like Rage, over the ones that open from the front like Grim Reaper, ect... Let the hate begin!
     
  7. deadeye007

    deadeye007 Newb

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    I'm not a fan of fixed blades due to the fact that they are not as accurate and I still get great penetration with expandables
     
  8. Backcountry

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    This thread is a whole new monster. The heads I will not use far outweigh the one's I will.
     
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    Oldcarp Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I'm not a Rage fan. On deer they do good but on elk they just don't have it. On elk a lot of expendables fall short. I have a good friend that has great luck with grim reapers on elk.
     
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    Really? Any broadhead will be very accurate as long as you have a properly tuned bow.
     
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    hahaha





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  12. cmonsta

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    Haha yeah I felt the people who missed the post deserved the privilege of knowing the saying still lol.
     
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    My thoughts as well when i first read it. I had to re read it make sure i wasnt going crazy :lol:
     
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    Haha yeah. I am stocking up on some hell razors now for next year. So no expandables for me next year.
     
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    This post is absolutely and completely wrong. If a person wants to use mechanicals have at it but fixed blades will fly as accurately as any mechanical.

    There are lot of BH's I would not use, fixed and mechanical. There are quite a few I would use, fixed and mechanical.
     
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    Not going to hate...this thread is about opinion more then anything. But I just want to point out something in your comment incase some newbe reads it and thinks you are right. If your form suffers and is off, it doesnt matter what kind of head you are using, even field point, your shot is going to be off the same amount. Don't fall for that gimmick that expandables will stop that...nothing will save you if your form is off. The head plays nothing in that situation other then the first part of the arrow that misses its mark. The nock will be the last part...even if you have lighted nocks...they won't save you there either.
     
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    I do lots of realistic practice from treestands, and for me I find fixed heads to be much more likely to take off on me when I am taking an awkward shot. So in my experience, my original post is not absolutely and completely wrong.
     
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    Well then, it may be true out of your bow but out of a tuned bow and arrow setup then, yes, it is absolutely and completely wrong.
     
  19. cmonsta

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    Hey buddy if it works for you then that's great! Not trying to take a shot at you. Again just trying to help out anyone else reading this. If everything is set up the way it should be (not hard at all...in fact I didn't have to do a thing other then move my site to the left a bit) then it won't make a difference. Bad form is bad form...nothing a broadhead can help you with. But I'm glad it works for you buddy! Keep doin what's best in your hand.
     
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    If an arrow comes out of a bow imperfectly, because of poor tune, poor form, or both, a fixed head is going to plane off course more than a mechanical or field tip. If this was not true, then broadheads and field tips would always group together, even out of an untuned bow. But they don't, because the broadheads are catching air and steering the arrow off course.
    For those who have a perfectly tuned bow, and think they never make a mistake with their form, maybe it is not an issue. But I am smart enough to realize I am not perfect.
     

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