What if the only people allowed to vote were those that had paid federal income taxes? In other words, if you did not have enough income to pay taxes, you had no vote. Fair? Unfair? Why? Should the citizens that actually pay to run the country be the only ones that have a voice in how the money gets spent? Would those that actually need federal assistance and dont pay taxes be forgotten? Would those that abuse the system get what they deserve? Looking for serious and thoughtful discussion on this.
What's paid? A lot pay payroll tax, but they use tax credits and exemptions for a refund. Just like everyone else. So because some followed the law got a refund they get their vote voided. Being 40-50% don't vote, I am guessing your demographic is part of this bunch.
I don't think women or people of color should be allowed to vote. Thats when this country went downhill.
With this train of thought, only landowners that pay property taxes should be allowed to let their children go to school. Only landowners paying property tax would have protection of the the fire department and police department, or anything else paid for by property taxes. If you are a US Citizen, not declared insane, and of voting age, it is your right to vote. Once you place qualifiers on there, there is nothing to stop the government from putting further restrictions to further prevent those who might vote against them on the books. So, I guess I am saying "Yes Fletch, you are wrong for thinking this." Now quit screwing off and get back to work before the boss catches ya!
Not really IV. All taxpayers pay into the school system because they also get state and federal money. I guess what I am really getting at is; if your only source of income is federal aid and you were not allowed to vote for that reason, how would that change the face of our elections? Dont tell my boss how much time I waste at work please.
I know plenty of family's that are not well off at all. Very very poor actually. They've never ever taken a bit of government assistance and will never take any. They have pride In who they are and are just happy to be able to breath the air we all do. Then you have people who take full advantage of the system. In a perfect world these are the people I would love to see not be able to vote but that would probably be 70% of the voters.
You should be allowed to vote for the people that can commit your country, your life and the lives of your children to war, to die. You should be allowed to vote for your leaders even if you live off the grid, don't work and support yourself by selling enough homemade items to buy what you can't grow to eat, kill to eat and items you make for yourself. A disabled person that cannot earn enough money to pay federal tax should not be denied the right to vote for the leaders of their government. I could go on but there are a whole lot of people that don't pay federal tax and they aren't driving escalades and gaming the system.
That doesn't address the federal aid that goes to corporations. How many corporations, agribusiness, mining, etc. would fail without subsidies?
I'm sure SHE already knows. OK, if someone is on social security and making less than $25K, they are not taxed on the benefits. So, they paid into the system by working and now that they are retired, you are saying they should no longer be able to vote? Also, how to you regulate this system? Do voters have to show up with their 1040 showing they paid in and didn't get it all back? It would not change the outcomes enough because with human nature one of the elected persons from a party would screw the pooch enough during their term to get people of their own party to vote against them.
Lets not leave out railroads. The largest recepient of federal dollars among the corporate world. But, these entities dont vote. Their members, employees, stock holders and owners do, but those folks are all likely paying taxes into the system.
How so? Only repulicans are rich? democrats are poor? So are the republicans getting a raw deal by having to support the country? Please explain.
Not really, the GOP gets a lot of the evangelical vote, like my sil. On government assistance, but extremely religious and vote GOP. The most extreme evangelical groups tends to be on the Lower scale of income, but since GOP is the party of God, they get it.
I would think this to be a pertty small percentage. I think MN Jay is correct in his statement but am curious to hear the answers to my questions.
