From reading the description they look like pretty good boots. With that being said, just last week I bought a new pair of boots to replace the pair I'm retiring after this year. I've got expensive hunting boots that are good, but I generally fall back to my ever so faithful Military - Mickey Mouse boots. I got the pair I'm retiring when I went in the service in 1983 so I've got 27 winter's out of them and never once had cold feet with them whether I was in the field on bivouac, ice fishing, hunting or working on cold concrete. Plus, they lasted 27 years without being properly taken care of or ever cleaned (except when I was in the service of course). The brand new pair I bought off of eBay cost me $49.95 shipped and they're the same brand - Bata. I told my wife if the new pair lasts as long as the others I'll be using them with my walker. lol http://store.colemans.com/cart/extreme-cold-temperature-boots-unissued-p-748.html
Heard GREAT things about them, Pat. I work outside some, now. And, I wouldn't be caught DEAD (even though the pac boots aren't a great fashion statement, either) wearing MM's!....lol Just tell me you don't have the white ones!
I have the black ones but if I lived in colder climates, I'd deffinately have the white ones. When it comes to warmth, I'm all about function and not all at about fashion. In other words, I don't care what others think, especially when they have cold feet and I don't.
I just can't imagine meeting a customer in the white MM's....lol. Like I said, though....the guys on the trad forum I sometimes click on SWEAR by those boots. I christened mine in 6deg. weather with 15-20mph winds, last week. I would've never dreamed my feet would stay warm in that. But, they did. The MM's you're referring to are rated even better.
The black ones are rated to -20° however the white ones are rated to -40°. Back in the mid to late 80's when I was still in the service we had a field excercise when the temp was right around the -20° mark (not including wind chill) and my feet stayed warm. THAT'S when I knew how good those boots are. As a matter of fact, MM boots are known for warming your feet back up even if you were to get water inside of them. After you dumped the water out of course. lol
Thanks for the heads up and I manage to find them online for $170 so far. I do pose 1 question and that is are they pretty light weight? Thanks, T
I'll have to look into those MM boots. Are they waterproof though? Nevermind , I didn't see it the first time but they are waterproof. $190 for pacs???? Wow. Tony, keep us informed on your findings on line please.
They're (I think) 20% off (-$38) on the Kenetrek site through the end of the year. $152 is a lot better than I did....and these are WAY warmer than similarly priced mucks. I paid full price....(sigh) NO...they are NOT lightweight.
LaCrosse Ice Kings if you're looking for the ultimate in warm pac boots. I've worn mine with nothing but white cotton socks in 10 degree weather and been toasty warm. If you want something smaller that's easier to walk in use your normal hunting boots and pick up a pair of HotMocs. Slip them over your boots with a pair of disposable handwarmers when you get to your stand and you'll be toasty warm for hours. I've been using something similar (ThermalFeet) for about 3 years with great succes. Saves you from having to buy another pair of boots. http://www.hotmocs.com/v2/boot-covers/hotmocs-shoe-boot-covers.php
Justin, have you used them when you have a bit of snow stuck to your stand? Do you think they get rid of that annoying crunch the snow makes on the stand. (pretend you are using a summit stand with the wide flat surfaces) Would it be slipperly with them on? (because I like to dance in the tree) My Alpha Burlys with 500 grams of thinsulate were pretty good, warmth wise, until I wore holes in them.
I've used them w/snow on my stand without a problem. Can't speak about the wide/flat surfaces, I don't use that junk. :D I can tell you that they have a rubberized gripping surface on the bottom to help prevent slipping that seems to work well.
The size chart says L, but I'd go XL just to be safe. Especially if you're going to use them on larger boots with a lot of insulation.
The little packages of Insole "Foot Warmers" work well in the arctic style boots. The two combined almost guarantee your feet will stay warm. You get nine full hours of heat from eack pack (100 F). This is usually enough to get you through the morning chill while on stand and then some. http://www.footwarmers.org/insole-foot-warmer-16-pairs