The NFL as a whole is out of control. The DE from Carolina was already convicted of felony DV against his girlfriend by a judge but is appealing it to go to a jury trial. So basically they start from scratch in November is what ESPN said. So the guy still plays football, makes millions and is not punished in any way, shape or form yet. I don't know about any of you but I would have been fired the minute I was arrested, but not these guys. I don't believe the NFL for a minute they hadn't seen the footage of Rice hitting his girlfriend in the elevator. They just wanted to see if it would come to light and if they would have to do anything. The players make the league way too much money for them to get instantly suspended for breaking the law. BS if you ask me but money makes the world go round and if you have enough of it, breaking the law doesn't seem be nearly as bad. And yes there is a big different between punishing a kid to learn consequences and beating him to leave marks. The kid is 4. He probably had no idea what he was getting hit for.