Accuracy Problems

Discussion in 'Intro to Bowhunting & Archery' started by Carsonbow4, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. tfox

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    That would be my suggestion, atleast until you get the form issues worked out. You can leave it but you will have to forget it is there and not look through it.

    Watch those videos on YouTube and use video and full length mirrors to help with your progress.

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    Ok thanks for the help. I already watched the first on on hand position, I was way off on that.
     
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    Edited... tfox on the scene.

    Are you getting it worked out? Hopefully you are.

    Keep shooting little brother!
     
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    Yes it was but it is relaxed which is good.

    Bow arm is collapsed and posture is off as well. Your hips and shoulders should be over your feet.


    http://youtu.be/rV2SP7PkpME




    I suspect your loosing the form on the draw. Watch the video on the draw and front end.

    http://youtu.be/d5BYtDLFcKM

    http://youtu.be/rNGJo77OAs8

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    If you can't easily draw the bow with the front end stationary, your pulling too much poundage.

    You will be able to determine if the draw length is correct when you start getting the form corrected. I suspect it's close.

    Once you have learned to achieve bone to bone alignment. http://www.bowtube.com/media/32/The_Stance-_Wise_Shooting_Tips_With_Larry_Wise/

    The pin will will settle down. Then execution of the shot becomes critical. Squeezing the shot off(back tension) and not punching the trigger is a must.

    Pictures of my son when he was 13. He almost beat me this day. I'm showing you him because of his age. You can learn good form now. Much easier to correct flaws when your young and the bad habits aren't engrained in you.

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    He likes shooting with some distance.

    He was 11 or 12 here.

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    Here's a very good pro with good form


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    Another pro with very good form.
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    Hope these pics and videos are helping you understand what you are looking for.

    What will happen on the internet is alot of well intentioned people giving advice that sometimes may not be correct, sometimes it is. You can get caught up between good advice and bad advice and really making it difficult to determine which is which.

    The videos I added are actual coaches teaching what works for them and their students.

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    tfox... Thanks for your great advice (to all of us) and especially for taking time out with this youngster.
     
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    I wish I would have had access to good teaching when I was this kids age. I was prerty much self taught at his age and had many bad habits that have stayed with me my whole life. Fortunately I made friends with a very prominent coach in the archery world (when i got older )and he helped me tremendously to become a good archer. However, I still have some of those habits from years of doing it wrong.

    If he heads the advice in these videos, he can become a very good archer.

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    Thanks tfox for all the help, greatly appreciated.
     
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    No problem. Keep us updated on the progress.

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    One suggestion I didn't see Tfox mention with removing your peep is blind bailing of sorts. If you try shooting at any distance more than 10yd or so, you may get frustrated trying to hit a spot on your target. I have myself and even had others I've helped remove both the peep and sight and shoot at (if possible) a blank target. At least until you get the Form issues corrected. I still do it from time to time during the off season just to make sure I'm still executing proper form. Then have the peep re-installed in the right place and install the sight and re-sight the bow.

    Tfox is dead on with his advise.
     
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    I agree but at this point, I wouldn't be concerned with shooting at all. Work on the form and drawing and letting down.

    Then move to the blank bail, trying to execute good back tension shots. Then move on to aiming drills. That consists of drawing on the spot, holding the pin on the dot for a few seconds and allowing the pin to float, then letting down.

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    This is tue.

    I still don't get the pin floating technique. Mine holds rock solid on the spot.

    Do you suggest push/pull 50/50?
     
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    I'm not a push pull advocate. I'm with Allistair that the front end doesn't do anything. I know some coaches teach it but it can create front shoulder issues floating around. He covers it in his videos.

    Pin float when your holding solid is really small. If your trying to fight a pin to stay still, it is bouncing away from center. If you trust in the float, it's constantly coming back to center.

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    I didn't even know there was any such thing as a nock set or sights. I just kind of lined things up and let it fly until someone helped me get set up.
     
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    And the Crowd goes Wild!!!!

    SsssWACK!
     
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    Yesterday I didn't get a chance to shoot but today I took the peep off and worked on drawing and good form. I feel pretty good with the new grip technique. But keeping my arm straight feels a little weird, I will just keep working on it. Like tfox said before it is easier now than it would be if I had been doing this for years. This weekend we are going to see my uncle. He's the one who got me into bowhunting, I will take my bow with me and have him help out.
     
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    I need to add, it may be a good idea to lower the poundage and work your way back up. When working on new things and using different muscles, there is a good chance for injury so lower poundage is better. If it's easy then it probably isn't an issue.


    Also, the grip needs to be correct before you draw. Don't try to adjust once you have drawn the bow.

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    Ok, right now I am drawing 40lbs so I will lower it down to 35lbs.
     

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