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Abortion ..... thoughts?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Tony, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. Tony

    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    Curious to see what everyone thinks on this subject ... I know there are many different views out there, so let's see what the Bowhunting community feels about it

    As for me, I am against it in all cases.... I am sure that surprises no one .... what about you?
     
  2. Rancid Crabtree

    Rancid Crabtree Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Killing an innocent person (especially a baby) is wrong. Killing guilty evil people is acceptable.

    It’s a person and a hopeful future and a baby when its conceived. It doesn’t become something else if you decide you don’t want it or you didn’t make good choices.
     
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    I've always been against it.
     
  4. Tony

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    So you guys are against it in ALL cases?
     
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    I don't see how murder can be a legal "choice". What gets me as well is how did the supreme court find it in the constitution that it is constitutional to kill an unborn child?

    I would allow it only if the mothers life was in danger.

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  6. Rancid Crabtree

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    Nope! that would be broad brush painting. When dealing with human lives, each is unique and must be understood. If the term threatens the life of the mother, she has a right to defend her own life from ending, she and her doctor need to make that call.
     
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    I would not ask anyone to do it. I don't believe in doing it myself unless it is for health issues or in cases of rape. That being said, I believe a person has a right to do what they want with their body in terms of abortion, and who am I to tell them any different?
     
  8. Tony

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    But it's not their body they are killing .... so are you OK with Kevorkian? Just curious ...
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    I'm not against it in all cases. I won't even go into detail because I'm not spending the whole damn day & night defending my views as I don't have the time.

    This thread can only go downhill.
     
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    Agreed again!
     
  12. Tony

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    You don't have to defend it ... and this thread shouldn't go downhill.... we all feel differently ... my views have changed alot on it...
     
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    Some (if not many) states have laws on the books stating that if a person kills a pregnant woman they will be charged with 2 murders because they murdered 2 people. There are laws against crimes against unborn babies. If its illegal for somebody to kill that baby prior to birth, it’s a human life and the killing of that baby should carry the same charge across the board. (unless carrying full term is deemed to kill the mother and then she has a right to protect her life)
     
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    Well, Brett mentioned the big one, rape. What if your wife/daughter was raped by some serial killer. Would you expect her to give birth to his spawn? Would you truly be okay with raising it? I don't think I would.

    Maybe my opinion will change when I have kids?
     
  15. Tony

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    That is one situation I used to think would be OK.... and seriously, I have no idea what I would want in that situation ... I am thinking adoption .... but I just don't know ....
     
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    Yes I am ok with Dr. Kevorkian. If someone has been suffering horribly with an incurable disease or injury, then yes I support a doctor administering medication to end someone's life.
     
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    Fair enough.... I can't say I disagree....
     
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    I get increasingly Libertarian as I age, but I can't agree with this. Your right to do what you want with your own body (using "you" in the universal sense" ends when it interferes with someone else's rights. In this case you interfere with the baby's right to life. In the same way, if someone wants to ingest drugs or alcohol, that should be their right. Right up to the point where they get behind the wheel of a car and interfere with someone else's right to safety/health/life.

    I am against elective abortion 100% of the time. That being said, if the woman's life is in danger she has the right to be treated for that illness/condition. That treatment might result in the death of the baby. Not saying I am OK with that, but that is a choice we have to leave up to the parents and the doctors.
     
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    In this situation, you have the option of putting the child up for adoption, right?
     
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    It is not the baby's fault that one of his or her parents was a monster and performed and evil act. If you cannot bring yourself to raise that baby, then giving it a chance of life through adoption would be the more humane act. There used to be a Catholic priest in my city who was adopted. When he tracked down his biological mother it turned out that she was raped and gave him up for adoption.
     

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