I killed 5 deer with the same aluminum once. And had a few with a couple kills. And that was back in the day when pass thrus weren't a "given".
I couldn't convince myself to switch to carbon, so I went with the FMJ's... So, I guess I'm in the middle now. But once these are gone, I will be going back to AL.
Yeah, I was strictly looking at this from a hunting point of view. With that being said. . .I don't see ever changing to aluminum. If I ever get serious with target shooting, I'd consider aluminum.
I guess I could see a miniscule difference for target shooters, but in hunting situations the degree of precision is somewhat unnecessary. I shoot my axis for 3D and hunting, all my arrows are cut off at the back as well as the front which is where the majority of the outtage occurs... For my purposes the durability of carbon arrows is worth much more than the little bit of consistancy that may or may not be gained from aluminums. A .001 tolerance is the same regardless of the material the arrow is made from.
If I am not mistaken,you shot Fatboy 500s which are probably a little on the light side of spine and the 2312 is a .423 spine which is probably a perfect match for you. I will be interested to see if you stick with the aluminums over time.I made the same switch some time back and soon found I couldnt afford aluminum on the 3-d range.:D I shot 2312 x7's. I am a carbon/aluminum mix guy for hunting and imo,it is the best compromise.BUT,I might use an all aluminum arrow if I feel like it.
Yep. I love aluminum. More forgiving. I enjoy shooting them. The problem is, I can't find one with the right spine deflection that will yield me the arrow weight I'm looking for. Since carbons are nearly 100% more popular than aluminum, they don't make a ton of the sizes they used to.
Yes, but IMO, straightness tolerance isn't nearly as important as spine consistency. And, in a lot of cases, spine consistency of carbon arrows doesn't even come close to aluminum. There are, of course, exceptions to that. Most carbon arrows all start out the same size. They are then sanded to the specifications the manufacturer is looking for. If you take a cross section, you'll see all kinds of "holes" in the spine. Weak spots. I would venture a guess that if you gave someone an arrow with a straightness tolerance of .004 and .002 they would notice absolutely no difference. BUT, if you were to give them a high quality carbon with tight spine tolerances......I bet they would notice the difference pretty quickly. Just my 2 cents. And really, it prolly isn't worth half that.
I shot XX75 for 6 years, all carbon for 2 years, XX78 the following 2 years and have been shooting FMJ for the last 2 years.
uhh they still make alum arrows???? I dont need line cutters to hunt deer:D just kidding, i think i have a dozen 2512 black arrows from my 3-d days around here. I am to busted up to shoot 3-d and paper any more.
I agree. I used to think carbons were more expensive. I no longer think that way. I can't remember the last time I broke an arrow.
X2...I have bought exactly 1 dozen arrows since 2000...I have shot gobs of deer - I still have 8 arrows left - two need reflected for the first time this year...except for the occasionaly spine shot - all arrows have been good to go after passing through deer (and the abuse they withstand during season is what I really like- seems like aluminum always had 1 or 2 after season that "wobbled" from abuse) My dad uses aluminum still - seems like a cheap option - but he has bought many more arrows in this same time... I shot aluminun for years...both are obviously fine - but for hunting - I'll never go back...
I still have a couple dozen X7's I have hunted with. I doubt I will ever use them to any great degree again, but they are very consistent arrows. High Grade carbon, and carbon/aluminum arrows are every bit as consistent as aluminums. This year I plan on using the ACC Pro Hunters. The Carbon Express Maxima, Maxima Hunter, and Aramids have performed flawlessly the last several years. They are pricey than most all carbon shafts but IMHO well worth a few extra $ Dan
I went from Fatboy 500's to GT 22 Pro's and now to these. I've busted one arrow in the month and half I've been shooting them and that was yesterday and it wasn't even on the range. I have another dozen on the way, I'm going to start stockpiling them.
I started out with aluminums in '89 and shot them until carbon quality improved. I switched to carbon and loved the durability but didn't like throwing out 3-4 arrows of every dozen I bought so I switched to ACC's. They were the perfect mix of durability and consistency, but lacked the weight I wanted for hunting. Now I shoot FMJs for hunting and ACC's for 3d.
I made the switch from Alum to Carbon when I first started shooting. The intial cost was a kick in the crotch, but I've had the original dozen for two years and I just lost my first arrow. TBH, I'm not skilled enough to notice a difference in how they shoot. I'll stick to the carbons.
WOW, thats crazy Bry.... how did you know they were bad arrows??? Do you have a spine tester, or ....???
That's pretty common for most carbon arrows, some more than others. I cull them by cutting from both ends, weighing them, and then spinning them. If they weigh, then I make them. Once they are made, I'll spin them. I'll turn and trade nocks and points/inserts to see if I can get them to spin. If I can't get them to spin, they get tossed. I've culled as many as 6 arrows out of a dozen when going through this process.
