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9mm or 45 acp

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Sota, Jan 4, 2025.

  1. Mod-it

    Mod-it Die Hard Bowhunter

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    .357 Sig definitely has some great ballistics. Always wanted one, have yet to do it though.
     
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    for a while, our County sheriffs carried Sig's in that chamber... they also had interchangeable barrels for 'em to go to .40's ... not sure what they have now ..
     
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    It's just not a common round and options aren't great, just like any other boutique round. So, I offloaded it years ago. Favorite thing to do was hand it to someone right about dusk and see the reaction to the insane fireball it emmited. Unreal.
     
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    I have always been a bit surprised that it didn't catch on more at least with LE. I remember seeing a "windshield test" several years ago, a LE agency tested several different calibers on how well they would go through a sloped windshield rather than deflect off of it. .357 Sig was hands down the winner (just 9mm, .40, and .357 Sig was tested). If I remember right, 9mm glanced off quite often, .40 was around 50%, and .357 Sig was in the 90's percentile to go through.
    Seeing that made me curious and I looked up the ballistics on it, definitely pretty impressive when compared to 9mm and .40.

    I've since thought about having one to carry when archery elk hunting. While I mainly think about a sow black bear with cubs or a cougar being the reason I pack a sidearm, in reality the main possibility of needing to defend oneself is more likely to be a cow moose with a calf. In all my time in the woods that is the only animal I've had an encounter with where I was pretty darn nervous how it was going to play out there for a minute.
    I'd feel a bit better having something like a .357 Sig, 10mm, or even a .357 mag with something as big as a moose.
     
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    Only real difference I saw in the Glock 9mm vs the Glock 45acp was the recoil. 9mm stayed on target better due to less recoil.
     
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    Wife got Kimber Micro 1911, she got the rosewood LG. I hope I did good, as I am not a gun expert.

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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    That is a good gun. Heavy in the hands and small for the women.
     
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    Thanks we are buying our retirement place and she’ll be up there alone at times, she wanted some protection. Takes her CPL class here soon.

    I have a .22 ruger that was my grandfathers, I love that little pistol.


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    Aluminum or stainless? 45 or 9?
     
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    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    Finally got my defender back from being ported and polished, new trigger and a Kimber spring in it. Sweet shooting little pistol.
     
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    Noodles I also have the pistol in a plastic bag breaking in a new leather holster.
     
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    'ported and polished' is what I used to do on engines.
     
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    It is stainless and stainless tends to gall when it rubs like a bolt in a nut, had to open the clearances a little.
     
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    I’m looking at this one in 9mm, already have 45 in Ruger. Time will tell.
     

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    9mm or .45? How about .380? :lol:
     

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    Lots of choices. If and a big if, I was to buy a handgun, one thing would be availability of ammo and reloading components.
     
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    I went to the shop and put my hands on this one. Originally I thought I wanted it but just to big for my needs.
     
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    The SIG 229 D/S in .357 SIG was standard issue for USSS for many years. I believe they went to Glock 9mm back in 2015-ish.

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    leaving this for full disclosure. Of course, AI knew the exact date:

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    Someone just 'liked' one of my posts on this thread from a few months back; just seeing this.

    If I were to own a handgun, or over 10 handguns, not that I do or ever would, I would never be without a Gen 3 Glock 19. I was told by a guy I know, real Paul Harrell-type dude, that they never fail to go bang, no matter how many thousands of rounds I he put through them, nor how infrequently I he cleaned them, it always went bang. No FTFs, no stovepipes, no mag issues. Just insert and press play. Eject, insert, and press play. Put it on loop.

    ...so I was told. By I guy I knew. From the internet.
     
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    I have a friend that works in an ER that sees a lot of gunshot wounds and says he would rather get shot with a 9mm. It would depend on the bullet used. I have a couple 45s and several 9mm. Personally, my EDC is a 45 S&W Shield M2.0 out of the Performance Center because it's easy to conceal, great trigger, shoots well and is light on the belt. In a Real World SHTF or Zombie scenario I'll be packing one of my 9mm for the simple reason with 2 mags and a loaded pistol =27 extra rounds, plus ammo for it would be a lot easier to pick up these days for a 9mm.
     

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