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9mm or 45 acp

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Sota, Jan 4, 2025.

  1. Mod-it

    Mod-it Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I think I'd be more worried about the type of bullet loaded in each.
    A fmj in each, if I had to, I'd choose the smaller hole. But I wouldn't want anything to do with a Gold Dot or anything like it that has expansion.
     
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    To this point and the point raised by Dr @dnoodles...

    if I'm the receiver, a 9mm with birds hot, from a sufficient distance may be my preference, if, I have the choice. I've had a good bit of 12ga birdshot rain on my already...

    If I'm on the delivery side, the bullet/ammo is a huge consideration as is the caliber, as is the delivery tool. EDC/CC for potential self defense, pinking or amidst grizz country may all justify a different, uh, recipe.

    I just don't have a place for .50 cal, Dr @Sota may.

    Ymmv
     
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    the original question is what you'd rather be shot by, not what you'd choose in case you had to to shoot someone with.

    Again, all else being equal-

    the average 9mm is 124-147 gr and using the most aggressive HP in a consistent medium would expand to appx. 13mm.

    the average .45 (11.43mm) is 180-230gr and using the most aggressive HP would expand to appx. 18mm.

    Expanded, that's a full .20/5mm bigger hole than a 9mm. F that!
     
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    Have you seen Liberty Pro Series 9mm ammo videos, impressive.
     
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    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    Told my wife I wanted an Alabai pup would get rid of the cameras, the security system and loaded handguns, she is concerned about the fur.
     
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    I was lying about the loaded handguns:biggrin:
     
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    I sold my 45s and 10mm and I all my remaining center fire handguns are 9mm.
    I shoot them way better.

    with modem bullets wound channel has more to do with bullet design than diameter.
     
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    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    I will not own a handgun with plastic on or in it.
     
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    axtell343 Grizzled Veteran

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    Im willing to bet there is polymer in that Colt Defender of yours somewhere :) like the mainspring housing

    anyways glock go brr
     
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    Nope, the defender is still at the shop getting the trigger replaced and I believe the spring will be replaced as well. My full size 1911 is my favorite.
     
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    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    You know I prefer my full size 1911, you fill a clip in the defender and the full-size 1911 and quick shoot the full clip the full size is on target after every shot.
     
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    Whats a clip?:poke::biggun:
     
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    Illegal in the NFL...

    Holds multiple pieces of paper together in the business world

    Works like a barrette in the hair fashion world, also called a banana clip

    Term also used in gardening and landscaping often times interchanged with pruning....

    :lol:
     
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    Look at old Gun Digests: the manufactures ( who own the privilege of naming their things as they choose ) used the terms clip and magazine interchangeably. It was the self appointed review writers who claimed a distinction based on stripper clips. They had no high ground.
     
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    The joke doesn’t work when you take it too serious. Most gun people know the what is meant by the term clip.
     

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