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70% of archery shooters have too short of DL

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  1. BJE80

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    I attended a seminar at the Madison Deer & Turkey Expo that claimed that 70% of archery shooters do not have their draw elbow pointing straight back while instead 70% have their elbow skewed away from their body meaning a short draw length.

    I re-checked mine and I'm pretty darn straight. If anything I'm just a tad long.

    What do you think? Is there really 70% that are too short?



    Here is way too long.

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    That's kinda interesting, I woulda thought it would of been other way around. As in saying most have too long of a DL. I've been told that about myself actually. I'm not really sure if it is or not but that pic does kinda make me curious enough to pay attention next time I shoot ha.
     
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    I read an article once it was the other way....too long.
     
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    I'm gonna call BS on this. This would mean hardly anyone shoots the correct draw length since there are also those who have a bow which is too long for them?
     
  5. BJE80

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    You probably won't be able to tell yourself. You probably need someone to take a picture of you.


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    I'm gonna have to agree. When I first got into archery and purchased my first bow 28" was what the (supposed) expert at a shop told me. I agreed with him 'cause that was also my buddy's DL on his Onieda Eagle that I had shot and it FELT comfortable. Last year I had a neighbor, who should be working at a shop, walk over while I was shooting to ask me what my DL was on my bow. He responded that I might want to take a "test drive" at the shop I use with a 29" DL. He was right is all I've got to say. That day I purchased 29" cams and had them installed.
     
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    I shot my bow with a longer draw length when I first got the bow, couldnt hit a house with it. Now that its shorter, 27 inches, I can hit a beer can most anywhere in my yard. I will continue to shoot it "too short" from here on out.
     
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    Using a mirror works OK.
     
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    I would also question it. Short draw was never a problem. Most had a tendency to shoot too long of a draw. I would think it has gotten better in recent years as more seem to know with all the info out there now days. Mine and Britney's are good.

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    Hmmm.. I remember when the shortest you could get a hunting bow was 28". (I have one of those dino bows and hunted with it for many years) It does seem to me that we've gone the opposite direction and everyone has a teeny weeny draw length now.

    I'm not sure how that works with the elbow cocked back as a sign of too short a draw tho'?? Seems like that is just a form issue.


    Then again, my form sucks whether I'm shooting 28", 27" or now 26". :D
     
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    I agree with him about the elbow out and in being a DL issue. Sure you can force you elbow straight. But the way I see if you just naturally draw your bow and a short DL would cause your elbow being pointed out and a long DL being pointed in.
     
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    Haven't hit my bow arm (or my hunting jacket sleeve) since going down 1" in DL.
     
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    for the part that I was awake for, :o, I learned quite a bit especially with the bone structure in line and using the shoulder muscle and trigger finger in conjunction for a smooth shot by tightening the shoulder muscles thus moving the elbow down in a 45 degree motion. I'll have to try to reproduce that. I learned alot from him last yr.
     
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    huh? have you shrunk over the past few yrs?
     
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    Yea right after I said that I remembered I had taken some pics the other day while shooting. While it looks like my elbow is straight, I did notice the string position on my face. Its not at the corner of my mouth as it would be if I used a kisser, which prolly wouldnt be able to. That's what was mentioned one time before at one bow shop but hasnt been at the other I go to. Who knows ha with it bein spring I may experiment some before fall rolls around to see if should shorten up some. Here's the pic if curious, from phone so may be hard to see.
     

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    I am 6' 1" and my actual draw length of my bow is 29 3/4 ". If I do the wing span method of measuring and divide by 2.5... 74" / 2.5 = 29.6" . Looks like I am pretty close to where I should be at.

    Britney is 5' 8" and has a wing span of 68". Her draw length should be... 27.2". I just measured her bow and came up with 26.5 ". Granted she has probably grown a little since last fall but we are close.

    So how tall are you and what's your wing span ?? Your wing span should be fairly close to your height if not right on.

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    I agree and disagree at the same time. The elbow not pointing straight back can be an indicator of being to short or too long. No questions about it. It can also mean there are other form issues going on as well. Just saying elbow doesn't do this so it means that is not correct but it is an indicator.




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    I draw longer than my wingspan by a 1/2" to 1". Around 1" when I was competing. I had the help of a nationally ranking coach to help me determine what was best for me.

    The wingspan method imo, is a waist of time.

    Heck, many manufacturers bows aren't even the correct draw length.

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    This is pretty interesting. I've always wanted to film my form and shots. This has got me wanting to film my form even more so now to slow it down for study. I'm sure I'll be doing a film and pics sooner now. Haha
     
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    It was correct that at 1 time most were drawing too long but it has gone the other way in recent years. Look at EVERY form thread on the net and someone will always say too long , regardless of the form issues going on. Simply because they only see anchors as draw length indicators. Problem is your whole body needs to come into the equation. People start over correcting with draw length when the issue lies somewhere else.

    The front shoulder is a great indicator. It should be pointed at the target (right of target for some from a right hand shooter(olympic recurve)) most hunters get nowhere near that closed with their shoulders. There is a compromise that needs to be reached from target form and hunting form buy not as much as some do.

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