3 or 4 FIXED blade broadheads?

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by MOBU, Aug 4, 2016.

  1. MOBU

    MOBU Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2014
    Posts:
    237
    Likes Received:
    21
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    To the left of my printer(Prairie Farm WI)
    When comparing 3 to 4 FIXED blade broadheads. (NOT COMPARING BRANDS AGAINST EACH OTHER)

    For the same weights....is it better to have 4 blades with a smaller cutting diameter OR a 3 blades and have a larger cutting diameter?

    I tend to think a larger cutting diameter to cut a deeper laceration is better than. My wife(RN as a human anatomy goes) says it's better to cut 4 lacerations at a lesser cutting diameter.

    Thanks,
    MOBU
     
  2. Jeepwillys

    Jeepwillys Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2015
    Posts:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    269
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Central, KY
    I tend to agree with your wife.
    I've shot Phatheads with bleeders~4 blade~Smaller cutting diameter. Great blood trails and short track job.
    I've shot G5 Montec~3 Blade~more cutting diameter. Lack of blood trails and longer distance track job.
    Many people have complained about Montecs not leaving a good blood trail, maybe that has something to do with it.

    Interesting thought.
     
  3. trial153

    trial153 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2011
    Posts:
    8,963
    Likes Received:
    2,855
    Dislikes Received:
    32
    Location:
    NY
    Total cutting area is a better indication then diameter. Your looking at two vs three plains.
    You can have a head with a smaller diameter yet it has more cutting area.
     
  4. Jeepwillys

    Jeepwillys Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2015
    Posts:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    269
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Central, KY
    Good point!
    I was thinking that the Montecs had more cutting surface than the Phatheads. I just went and measured, G5 was an 1-1/2", Phathead was an 1-3/4".
     
  5. MOBU

    MOBU Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2014
    Posts:
    237
    Likes Received:
    21
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    To the left of my printer(Prairie Farm WI)
    Thanks! My 100 gr MX3 measure 1.43" cutting length, a 100 gr MX3 mathematically would be 1.60" cutting length.
    A complete pass thru would be ideal in my book, from my experience making an exit wound(second hole) bleed out MORE than twice as fast.
     
  6. dnoodles

    dnoodles Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2012
    Posts:
    12,971
    Likes Received:
    18,582
    Dislikes Received:
    23
    Location:
    People's Republic of IL
    also depends on how much KE you are pushing. 4 blades = more cutting surface = more drag = less penetration through the animal.
    Just something to think on. Difference may be negligible on an animal like a whitetail but then again maybe not.
     
  7. alaska at heart

    alaska at heart Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Posts:
    296
    Likes Received:
    45
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    west Michigan
    I am an avid Prime bow shooter, but do not care for the Montecs at all......from field experience. The NAP Hellrazor is a much better head of the same basic configuration that sharpens easier and holds a better edge. Having killed a bunch of game with 2,3 and 4 blade heads, I have found that 3 blades tend to fly the best for me and make very nasty holes in game. Probably the most gruesome blood trails of my nearly 40 years of bowhunting came during my trad days with a Wensel Woodsman 3 blade head. It had a longer profile than the Montec/Hellrazor/Snuffer/VPA, but man did it put the whammus on deer. The past couple years I have been launching Trophy Taker Shuttle-T's at game and will have them in my quiver this coming fall. They don't make a huge hole, but they are extremely accurate and put game down on the ground.
     
  8. KyleLewis

    KyleLewis Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2011
    Posts:
    1,397
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Western MA
    I like my 4 blade Thunderheads, simple and effective.
     
  9. rick-florida

    rick-florida Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Posts:
    787
    Likes Received:
    72
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    central Florida
    3 blade Muzzie and Montec CS have done well for me in the past then shifted to slicktrick four blade. very pleased with the four blade performance and all things being equal, believe the fourth blade does give an edge.
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2016
  10. choppersk61

    choppersk61 Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2014
    Posts:
    365
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canada
    I go with 3 blades.

    Aerodynamically... 3 blades have the same lift/drag on each blade, regardless of the blade position.
    When you go with 4 blades, depending on the blade position, they will not fly the same. ie: two blades perfectly horizontal will have all the lift and the two vertical will have no lift, only drag...

    Only way to have same lift/drag ratio on a four blades design is to have them at a perfect 45 degrees.
     
  11. frantic29

    frantic29 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,294
    Likes Received:
    64
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Topeka, KS

    In my experience this isn't true at all. 4 blades tend to tune way easier than 3 no matter how the blades are.


    As far as the OP question I have shat many three blade systems. All have done well. Then I started using Slick Trick standards and I'm not going back. They fly better, easier to tune and leave great trail. I think the easier tuning has a lot to do with the smaller diameter, and with a 4 blade you still get more cutting surface than 3 blades of the same and slightly more diameter.
     
  12. JesseHunts

    JesseHunts Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Posts:
    485
    Likes Received:
    106
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Highland, Minnesota
    After seeing this thread I went out and shot I have the montecs which are 3 blades and my girlfriend has slick tricks which as we know are 4 blades shot both and the slick tricks are consistantly more accurate only by about and inch.. The montecs are usually about an inch high and the slick tricks are dead on if that helps at all
     
  13. preachnhunt

    preachnhunt Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2015
    Posts:
    223
    Likes Received:
    112
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Lancaster Ky
    As far as the OP question I have shat many three blade systems

    OUCH!
     
  14. alaska at heart

    alaska at heart Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Posts:
    296
    Likes Received:
    45
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    west Michigan
    I thought the same thing when I read that line.......:eek2: There have been a few times after eating Mexican food that I felt a bit like that however.
     
  15. frantic29

    frantic29 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,294
    Likes Received:
    64
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Topeka, KS
    HA! I never noticed that. Obviously. That would be absolutely no fun.
     
  16. Bowslinger2

    Bowslinger2 Newb

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Posts:
    29
    Likes Received:
    6
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Harrison, Maine
    Four cutting edges compared to three? Always listen to your wife. You know she's right, most of the time anyhow.
     

Share This Page