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***2023 Contest Smack-talk and General Banter Thread***

Discussion in '2023 Deer Contest' started by LittleChief, Jul 4, 2023.

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  1. cantexian

    cantexian Legendary Woodsman

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    I have a hard time believing all those bucks are in Arkansas on the same property. Send coordinates. :lol:
     
    cantexian, Aug 15, 2023
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    They are dang near in the city limits.

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    Just because you never see deer doesn’t mean they don’t exist. :poke:
    :lol:
     
    LittleChief, Aug 15, 2023
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    opossumhunterNC Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Nothing beats a good ol Tasty Two Pointer… they’re so tender and delicious.
     
    opossumhunterNC, Aug 15, 2023
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    Oldcarp Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I’m a member of the “Spoon and Crockpot club”
     
    Oldcarp, Aug 15, 2023
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    To be a "2 pointer" one tine/point/beam has to be longer than 3" most states......
     
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  8. opossumhunterNC

    opossumhunterNC Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Not in North Carolina….

    as of 2023:
    “Antlered deer are defined as having visible antlers, defined as bony structures that protrude through the skin. Knobs or buttons covered by skin or velvet are not considered visible antlers”.

    Used to be 1” past cuticle but not anymore… my state elected an anti-hunting governor a few years back and his administration has been dead set on sneaking a whole bunch of “gotcha” traps into our hunt/fish regulations to try and trick hunters/fishermen into breaking the law by mistake. If you hunt NC you better study the regulations like your freedom depends on it and make damn sure that you’ve got the current year’s handbook.

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    opossumhunterNC, Aug 16, 2023
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    Ridgerunner3 Grizzled Veteran

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    I guess it's how you look at this. I get that it is a change that seems sneaky with the wording, but I wouldn't want to burn an antlered tag on a button buck I mistook for a doe. "Visible" is very subjective language. I'm pretty sure MO has the same or similar type of standard for antlers, if memory serves.

    Also, it's hard to measure 1 inch of bone from 30 yards at last light.
     
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  10. wl704

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    Dude, you can take 6 deer here...only 2 can be antlered.
     
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  11. LittleChief

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    Missouri regulations say that a deer has to have one antler over 3” to count as an antlered deer.

    I knew that at some point in the past but I had forgotten it. I guess a 2 1/2” spike counts as antlerless.
     
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  12. Ridgerunner3

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    Well yeah, but that wasn't part of the conversation. :cool:
     
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  13. cantexian

    cantexian Legendary Woodsman

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    I have seen 7 in the woods that I have jumped while scouting during the month of July. That's not counting the 40 I saw in fields along the interstate this weekend.

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    Point I was driving at is, for example, you have 2 antlered tags in your pocket, a 1 inch spike steps out last light and you don't see the "antlers". Punch the release and discover you burned an antlered tag on a tiny buck. Yes, you have another antlered tag, but I still think I'd be frustrated. Am I alone on this?
     
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  15. LittleChief

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    There you are. I figured I’d get an appropriate response to that post. :lol:
     
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    You absolutely right. This is a problem for some states. This situation happens to a hunter and when he finds the deer. Then just leaves it instead of using a antlered tag. Would rather leave the deer, then get caught with it by DNR and burn a tag on it. I'm sure it happen more then we realize in states with this rule. It dangerous in many ways.

    For me I take good binoculars on every hunt and alway check a deer before shooting. I've shot my fare share of buttons back in the day, binos have 100 percent fixed that for me. Every year I get fooled by small spikes, don't realize until I look at them thru the binos.

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  17. LittleChief

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    No, you’re definitely not alone in your thinking.

    In Arkansas you have to be very careful. A button buck has to be tagged as a buck regardless of how small the buttons are. You get two buck tags and if you mistakenly shoot a button you just burned one of your buck tags.
     
    LittleChief, Aug 16, 2023
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    cantexian Legendary Woodsman

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    This is dependent on where in the state you are hunting. In some areas, BBs have to be tagged as BBs, but count as antlerless and not against the state-wide two buck limit, in some zones. All the WMAs I hunt close to home, a BB does not count as a antlered buck.
     
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    From what I’ve read of Arkansas regulations, button bucks are tagged as antlerless (BB) but still count against your buck quota. That’s the state regs for Zone 9 (outside a CWD management zone) and I know it is that way at Wattensaw.

    Edit: Okay, I think I've finally managed to wrap my mind around this. Button bucks are considered antlerless in Arkansas, but you have to look at each zone's specific regulations. In Zone 9 the bag limits specifically state two antlered bucks and the rest can be does. In this case a button buck has to be tagged as a buck.

    In Zone 8 the bag limits list two bucks and the rest can be antlerless. The wording is different, so I guess in Zone 8 a button buck doesn't count against your buck quota.
     
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    Just gotta keep you honest...

    'Toto, we're not in Missouri anymore'
     
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    Legal
    Does, button bucks and bucks with spikes less than 3 inches are legal to take on Antlerless or Any-Deer Permits

    per MDC website
    Count the total number of points 1 inch or longer. Record the harvest of a buck as 0 points if the buck has one of the following:

    • shed its antlers
    • small antlers with both beams shorter than 3 inches
    • broken antlers off less than 3 inches from their base


    in Nebraska
    Legal Description of Deer
    Buck - A deer having at least one antler 6 inches or more in length
    Antlerless - A deer with no antlers or antlers less than 6 inches in length
     
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