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2015 mathews

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by maxpetros, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. Jacob1

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    I'm with you on the no shine.
    I've never owned a bow that wasn't camo so the chance of me buy one a differant color isn't good anyway.
    But still bad aZz looking for sure.
     
  2. BigPhil_H

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    I wonder if the BHOD guys will be shooting them this and/or next season
     
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    I guess I won't trade my Heli-M in anytime soon.
     
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    Definitely interesting... I also think the HTR isn't bad looking at all.
     
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    I think the banner should say.. feel the past.

    They've re-vamped old technology, an it may be awesome but nothing innovative about it.. on paper anyway.
     
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    I'm usually not one openly disagree on the forums, especially in regards to something that no average guy here has even put his hands on yet (including myself), but I'm gonna have to disagree with your statement about nothing being innovative in the mathews lineup. I can't think of another no-cam bow on the market. In my opinion that would make the mathews no-cam series innovative. I don't know how it shoots, I'm not sure if the asthetics of it are even pleasing to the eye. I will say that it certainly seems innovative to me and I'm excited for the chance to shoot it and see what it's all about.
     
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    Cledus Die Hard Bowhunter

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    The bow feels awesome, and shoots even better! Gonna be hard to resist getting one..
     
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    Yes great ...but it's not a " no cam"

    Its a cam in every sense on the word. Because the axle isn't in the prefect center it's no longer a wheel it's a cam.
    In fact it's the same thing a binary cam which are exactly the same except instead of slaving the cams to each other they slave them to a separate "rock mod"

    If your old enough to recall what we were shooting in the late 80's you would see this is throw back to in some respects.
     
  9. Schuls

    Schuls Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Hmmm nope its not a cam still
     
  10. jeffacarp

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    I don't disregard the fact that the cam or wheel, whatever we wanna call it, is not perfectly centered in the axle. Maybe it is a cam, sure seems less cam-ish than many other dual cams out there on the market today. I was in fact born in 1986 and do not recall what archery equipment looked like until about 2010 when I started bowhunting. If the mathews no-cam htr shoots like a compound from the 1980's I'll be happy to eat crow. But, if it does offer a solid backwall and a remarkably smooth draw like they claim, I'll still call it innovative. To each their own I guess. I'm excited to shoot all the new offerings from the manufacturers this season.
     
  11. Cody_MidMO

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    I'm just curious on how a no cam system will do with the back wall and especially a valley which is noticeable. And let off? Hmm..we shall see.
     
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    After further review, I think I can throw as fast as the TRG 9 ;)
     
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    As it was pointed out, that is a target bow. From what I understand a lot of guys that shoot target bows use light arrows for better arrow trajectory so they don't need crazy high IBOs. And IBO just means at minimum arrow weight say 70# and 350 gr that bow will shoot 301 fps. If guys with bows use those lighter arrows, say 350 gr for easy math, that bow will shoot 301 fps which is faster than pretty much everyone's hunting setup. No one ever complains about 300 fps on a hunting arrow why complain on a target arrow? With the 9 inch brace height and at 301 fps that bow probably hits the 12 plenty of times:)
     
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    Yes target archers definitely want more speed. But I can't recall the last time I was at a shoot and the SERIOUS target guys were ever shooting 70 pounds. Let alone 60. Most are shooting 50-55. And that's where a target rig with a little more speed helps. And the average masses don't shoot a 30 inch draw more along the lines of 28. So say they were shooting 50 pounds 28 inch draw and a 350 grain arrow, that's shooting roughly 236.


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    IMO the new Mathews Target bows are they ugliest Compound bows I've ever seen. I am a diehard Mathews fan, I shoot a Chill my dad shoots a Creed XS and we love them and they are awesome looking bows.... But the target bows are just plain ugly. Sorry
     
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    Incorrect. The axle is in the direct center of the wheel.

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    I'm curious how you get let off with a wheel? Serious question, I don't know.


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    Then the take up for the let off has to come from the cable linked to the mod, so then the mod is offset.
    The let off has to come from some place.

    So if that's the case then an unequal cable will over or under rotate the " wheel". Please tell me how this is any different the a binary cam?

    Both " no cam " and binary have the exact same radius to draw string through the track ( binary are mirrors, the no cam is round)
    Binary are slaved together via cable to cam( offset cam tracks) "no cams" are slaved together at the " rock mods" also offset.


    Despite these being" round" they are still a cam.

    Nice to see Matthews making binary cams as they are my favorite.
    I might have to shoot them, but I know I won't get past their looks.
     
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    I thought binary wheelie when I first saw it. Nothing has really changed my first impression but I'm still taking it in.
     
  20. Jacob1

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    Off topic but I thought for sure mathews would have came out with a crossbow. A mathews branded one not mission. I don't shhot a crossbow but there is a growing market that mathews is currently missing.
     

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