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2013 CFB Predictions Thread

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Hooker, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. buckeye

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    2-3 is correct for UM.
     
  2. Germ

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    Correct, I have no problem with our record.
     
  3. Goosepond Monster

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    Um...yeah.

    I'll be happy if they make a bowl game. I'm not one to think that a highly-ranked recruiting class makes for a national championship.

    Pure Michigan.
     
  4. Hooker

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    Look at the top recruiting classes, then look at the top programs in the country. If you do not think that having top rated recruiting classes translates to wins, then you fooling yourself.
     
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    I actually think the recruiting classes are influenced simply by the program. I'll share an example. I see kids that are 2 stars getting recuited by say Indiana or a MAC school. As soon as Michigan offers or visits them, their stars magically go up to 3-4 for the same kid. So I think that goes to show that the people ranking the classes just want to show that the top programs get the top classes so they don't look bad. "If Michigan is interested then he must be a 4 star. If a MAC school is going to get him he must only be a 2 star."


    Having said all that, the class rankings do carry some merit but you can't hang your hat on it to being the gospel either. Player development is still critical no matter how you look at it.
     
  6. Hooker

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    Oh no doubt players get a bump when they commit to the big schools. Rivals is owned by a Bama grad, so the "Bama bump" is a pretty common phenomenon.

    But also, sometimes a player is just under the radar, or the recruiting sites have yet to fully evaluate the player, and when he commits to a big school, they then take the time to evaluate them fully, and sometimes they get the bump once full evaluation.
     
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    I didn't know that about Rivals. I prefer 247Sports, which was founded and now ran by a Bama grad.
     
  8. Hooker

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    Yeah I'm pretty sure they guy that founded 247 is the guy that started Rivals, but got pissed at how it was going, so he left and created 247.
     
  9. Goosepond Monster

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    I'm not saying that it doesn't translate to wins, but some people seem to celebrate a highly rated recruiting class like they've already won something.

    The kids have to put in the work and produce on the field. Just because you're a five star recruit doesn't mean they need to start engraving your name on the Heisman trophy.
     
  10. Hooker

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    I mean...it's not a reason to not celebrate...

    True. But the vast percentage of 5* recruits pan out to be great players.

    Don't act like you wouldn't get excited if IU ever signed a 5* recruit.
     
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    I think Gunner Kiel was a five-star recruit. We all know how that worked out.

    My excitement at that news was minimal.
     
  12. Hooker

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    Yeah but that is different. You knew that he wasn't as good as advertised since he failed at ND. That is different than getting a kid straight out of HS.

    I wouldn't get excited about getting ND second hand 5* either.
     
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    Really, LOL
     
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    It's not one recruit that makes the difference, it's the entire glass. Nobody is celebrating anything, but you keep trying;)
     
  15. Hooker

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    LSU has the likelihood of signing 8 of the top 50 players in the country, included the top 2. That would make one hell of a class.

    But ol' Goose would be like "meh"
     
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    Uh, IU was his first commitment, then LSU, then he went to ND and now he is at Cincy.

    Really? You're the one that was trying to put Michigan on the same level as Bama, LSU, etc. due to the ranking of their recruiting class.
     
  17. Hooker

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    Oh...ok. I didn't really follow him after he decommited from LSU (which was a complete b**** move how he did it) and committed to ND.

    Sorry.

    Well I'm sorry you just seem like a negative nancy.
     
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    Keep trying, because that's not what I said.
     
  19. Hooker

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    I honestly do not know why I'm arguing with an IU fan about CFB...
     
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    Hooker is Fournette going to LSU? He's supposed to at Michigan this weekend, but he may have
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Tahoma, sans-serif]canceled[/FONT]​
     

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