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2011 hunting arrow setup

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by stuntriders, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. GMMAT

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    Why so, Dan? I'm curious. If you know it's sufficient, and it's always worked.....how does knowing the exact % aid you?

    FTR....I used to shoot in and win 3D tournaments with a compound bow.........shooting an FOC of <1%.

    My hunting arrows are over 500gr. and traveling a hair over 170mph.. I'm using a 150gr. BH and a 17gr. insert on 30" arrows. I've had pass-thrus on every deer I've shot with this setup, sans one (user error).

    What am I not taking advantage of?

    Bruce....I was severely over-spined on my last compound setup. Yeah....adding a bunch of weight up there would have helped. Switching to trad forced me to get a clue about a lot of tuning aspects. FOC? It's flying true. It has sufficient weight. I figure I'm "good".
     
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  2. MeanV2

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    3d is a different game. No broadheads. I base everything I post on my experience, not a software, tv show, or magazine article. I'll never shoot a broadhead with less than 12% FOC.

    There is an optimum arrow for every game. Most never take the time to find it because they are satisfied with what they shoot, and that's Ok.

    I tinker and test, that's what I Love to do :)

    You do what you want. ;)

    Dan
     
  3. GMMAT

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    Just for S&G's, I just checked it.

    14.17

    I already feel like a better hunter.
     
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    I just checked It now, 17%. I measure mine Including the BH on both measurements. I'm thinking your not Including the BH on the length of the arrow? If I do that I get 21%.
     
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    Yes, my understanding of the measurement does not include the BH or nock.
     
  6. Schultzy

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    Just curious as to why you don't? The BH should be part of the equation I would think.
     
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    I never include nock or broadhead either. My understanding has always been you are finding the balance point of the shaft.

    It's probably nitpicking though :)

    Dan



     
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    Every thing I saw that explained FOC didn't include nock or tip length. The 2 Archery programs I use, On Target 2 and Archer's Advantage, don't use it. I guess the reason is, when they established the FOC "standard", they did as Dan says, used the balnce point of the shaft with out tip or nock length. They could have dome it using the tip and nock length and that would have been fine as it is just a reference number. There just has to be a standard for that reference and right now the accepted standard doesn't include the tip and nock length.
     
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    LOL I have been known to pick a nit here and there :D .
     
  10. Schultzy

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    No problem Bruce, just wondering. I've saw where some recommended using the BH too being It's part of the arrow. I've also read other places where they do not use the BH.
     
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    When the arrow is shot the bh is included so it would have to have some say in the foc right?
     
  12. Schultzy

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    That's the way I look at It too. Each to their own though.
     
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    octhereicome Weekend Warrior

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    Like said earlier just nitpicking....works both ways i would think just mabey better one way
     
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    Of course it would. The length and weight of the BH are attached to the arrow for the measurements in either method of measuring.
     
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  15. Schultzy

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    No their not. http://blog.stickemarchery.com/?p=2075
     
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    octhereicome Weekend Warrior

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    i saw two different ones..
     
  17. JayB22

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    For all of you big FOC guys, have you looked into the Harvest Time arrows? They are a small diameter hunting shaft with a big (45 gr i think) insert that tapers down to the shaft. There is a guy no Archery Addix who just got them and is going to be putting them through some tests this week. They seem like some neat arrows. I think they are available down to a 200 shaft.
     
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    octhereicome Weekend Warrior

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    i think victory makes arrows similar to those...let me know how they work
     
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    Here are some pics

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    yea i saw a vid of those kinds of arrows...they are supose to have great penetration
     

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