I'd definitely have more issue with the arrow in this case than the broadhead. Breaking off immediately behind the insert without any penetration seems very odd. You have to assume the arrow deflects a bit when it impacts a deer - especially one that's quartering and shot with a mechanical that opens on impact. If the force of the arrow is redirected to the side and the arrow snaps you're not going to get any penetration regardless of what type of head you're shooting.
Buy Magnus broadheads and they come with a warranty so when you damage one you send it in and they send you a new one. It took me 7 deer to bust one and Mike sent me a new Snuffer.
You have a force component the the broadhead opening with a Mechanical. They lose more velocity in a shorter period on impact. And if the blades do not open together that could be another area of concern. How wide was the wound? Did both blades deploy? Sent from my iPad using Bowhunting.com Forums
After all the studying I've done I have to agree that it's an arrow problem. The arrows in my quiver have never been shot in groups to be damaged, they're just brittle. I opened a thread on AT a few moments ago, it was a 2 day old thread I'd not opened and the guys arrow failed and someone asked what arrow and he posted a pic of his hand with a bit of carbon slivers and the same arrow I was shooting. I always flex my arrows whether I shoot groups or not but always wondered just how telling flexing was for problems near the end of the shaft.
LOL! I know it's my fault for the way I worded it, but really didn't mean to be a hater. I believe every head out there (except some knockoffs and cheapos) will be perfect for one guy and a disaster for another. Everything is relative.
The rage blades look like sh--. Same problem I've had. The blades often bend... sometimes even break.
I've had serious issues with rage not opening and not penetrating. Was a dismal experiment two years back. Went back to my tried and true Muzzy 100gr 3 Blade. 3 shots this year, 3 pass throughs, three dead deer that fell within sight. To each his own.
i have been bowhunting for 25yrs or so and i have had bent blades with muzzy, wasp and thunderheads and also with my go to rages, dont really care about bent blades as long as the broadhead gets the job done, first, to each his/her own, in their own thoughts and choices.....russ
I am not for sure it is just an arrow problem, the fixed blade went threw and impacted with enough force to bend the head and the arrow did not break. Sent from my iPad using Bowhunting.com Forums
I had the same experience with Maxima hunter red's a few seasons ago...I wouldn't shoot them if they were free.
The reds or the Rage? Not trying to poke just want to be sure. My son just started shooting the Reds and I've not shot an animal with them.
Hmm, thats interesting, Ive been use the Maximas for four or five years without issue, although I am shooting at 60 pound draw weight, maybe that's the difference. But I have never had an arrow break on impact whether it be a stump(quite a few of them hit) or a deer(not quite as many )
Same here, been shooting maxima reds for a couple of years with no issues whatsoever, bears and deer. Have had a couple break when the animal falls on the arrow but that happens to any arrow.
sounds to me like your head cartwheeled and put a hell of a lot of stress on your shaft, There some one dsaid it--not politically correct !
Red's, never shot a deer with a rage. Shot a buck twice and both arrows snapped, shot two doe and both arrows snapped....4 shots on deer in one season and all 4 arrows snapped. Recovered all three deer but just didn't like my arrows breaking. On a different note, just killed deer number 6 all with the same arrow, a FMJ.
I shot rages for 4 years and I saw some weird things with them too. I have an idea of what happened here. I have heard of entrance holes with rage from a stand be lower than the exit from a really good friend of mine. I've seen entrance holes, from a stand, on a broadside hit over 5 inches and thats with a 2 inch cut head. I've also, on the original rages, had both blades fold over to the same side upon penetration and lock up and bend where I couldn't get the blades apart. How is any of this possible? Ok... upon entry if one of the blades deploy before the other one it will cause the arrow to kick just slightly to the right or left depending on which blade opens first. This would help explain why your arrow broke where it did and why all the other things I've seen and heard happened. Your arrow didn't enter straight in with the rage arrows because one blade deployed before the other causing it to tilt or kick slightly, but it did enter straight with the thunderhead.... thats why your arrow didn't break with the thunderhead. Sent from my SM-S120VL using Tapatalk
As an Engineer the most likely explanation assuming the same arrows with the thunderhead, is that when the rage opened it put an uneven force most likely from a change of direction, on the arrow causing it to snap. I do not have a lot of experience with carbon fiber, but it can be strong in one plain weak in another. The arrow was probable on the weaker than it should be. Sent from my iPad using Bowhunting.com Forums
I too have been shooting Rage 2 blades since they came out. I must agree that they are useless after you shoot a deer with them. Or should I say the blades. I never use the same blades regardless of the broad heads anyways. My arrows are about 5 to 6 years old and the past couple of years they started splitting from where the broad head inserts. However, those arrows also hit bone due to bad shot placement/bad luck (buck fever). I was told by a friend who knows archery’s inside and out, that arrows have life spans on them. After you shoot them over and over time after time eventually they will weaken. Could it be that theses arrows have out lived their effectiveness?
