2 black labs chasing deer out of my woods today. What would you do?

When im at work the dog is in the house.........

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I grew up on a blacktop, off a major highway. I had more dogs ran over than I can count. Nothing we did worked to keep them off the road. Fences, cable runs, house dogs. The harder we tried the more it seemed they would get loose and run to the road.

 

The most important S of SSS is the last one ....

 

It's hard to read a dog's pedigree papers from a tree stand, ain't it. LOL

 

Wonder if you can train those labs to go find the deer and "walk" them by your stand?

That I might be able to work with. Lol

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Just lost a lot of respect for this guy. A dog is a dog dude. Yeah I'm not a fan of over breeding pitbulls not trained ears cut. In fact I don't care for pitbulls at all. But bad dogs come from bad owners. What you said here is probably the stupidest thing I've read on this forum. And up until this you seemed like an alright dude. You shoot my dog and you're doomed. And it's not gonna be quick either. I love that dog and the pitbulls of the world for the most part have someone at home that feels the same for them. Dogs are individuals and cannot be judged on race alone. Some of the sweetest most loving dogs I have ever met we're pitbulls. And mind you this is coming from a guy who doesn't care for the breed. Some people should cease to exist. Don't be one of them.

 

Right on!

 

Lighten up Francis. Here's a tip, read the entire thread before commenting.

 

I think you're better than some of your early comments on this thread. I really do. This will fire things up a bit. Not all pitbulls are vicious
Not all labs are sweet. Not all Aussies are smart. Not all Canadians are bigots.
And to the guy who shot his neighbors dog for growling at him. Wtf is wrong with you. Napoleon complex maybe? Or maybe Dunlap is just a weak person.

 

As a pitbull owner, I do understand the risk of these dogs. Just like any other breed of dog, you research the pedigree and the dogs behind them. The APBT has records dating back to the early 1900's. You can find out just about anything you want about these dogs. They are bred for power, determination, agility, wind, etc. That's where your selective beeding comes in. My dogs stay on chains or in kennels depending on the weather conditions. They are "working" dogs not family pets. They get along with people just fine, I do have a beware of dog signs posted on my property but that is for safety reasons. Will my dogs bite anyone? Who knows, I had cocker spaniel that bit a friend staying at my house when I was kid. My dogs go through temperment tests not just with me but with several people they don't see at all. You should be able to walk up to my house, open up the kennel, put a leash on them and walk them away. I'll have someone take them back, put them back up and feed them, then put their hand in front of the food and make it to where they can't eat. Then feed them from their hand. These are all tests they must pass and I have never had a pitbull fail. I've owned more of them than most people you know own dogs in general.

It's never been about proving a dog is safe or not. It's about being a safe and responsible owner. If you own a dog, especially a sporting/ gun dog you have a responsibility to your animal to train and care for it the right way. Letting it show aggression towards people, run wild without limits is not responsible. I've lived out in the country in BFE, down in Arkansas if you live more than 30 min from a wal mart your in BFE! Where I was raised, the nearest walmart or town for that matter was 45 min away. I lived in BFE for real! Our dogs ran lose, they did as they pleased but we knew if they got shot, it was part of it. I wouldn't expect someone to think twice about letting my dog live because of my ignorance and neglect.
Where I live we give people and their dogs 2 chances. My nieghbor down the road has lost several dogs to cattle men who will not take any animal much less someones pet chasing $20,000 worth of cows and calves around the pasture. I had told my neighbor 2 times and warned that dog with a .22 a few times and it kept up. The day he did that, I had enough! I'm a new father and my little girl who just turned 8 months old a few days ago and loves to be outside weather permited. My wife has taken her outside several times and she is worried about that dog. My neighbors response to me and the local seriff telling him his dog needs to stay in the back yard on a chain or get a higher fence...He ain't gonna hurt nobody. I told the sheriff if that dog did it again I was going to shoot it. He told me it's my propery and I had the right to. A few days later, I went to check the mail and I carry a gun with me anywhere it's legal. That dog ran at me and I was just going to walk away till it started jumping at me closer and then back to its spot. I thought about my little girl and what would that dog do if she were 2 and running in the front yard or with my wife. Would that dog stop? Would he do this to her also? If it were my wife and child would he be less aggressive? No more questions because I put 1 in his head and now I know the answer to my questions.

 

There are a few dogs I will never own. Cocker spaniels and chows come to mind.

Pit bulls have a lot of desirable attributes but one bite may turn into a mauling or death from them. I'm not chancing it with my family.

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Just curious, why not a cocker spaniel? I had one but he was old, I was young and don't know to much about them than they ruin your fishing if they are lose. lol

 

As long as we are talking about how sweet Pitbulls are and the idea that its not about the breed but all about the owner..... lets see what actual statistics and data might prove. It took me two minutes to find this one:

One surprising conclusion of several studies is the fact that many varieties of dogs have been involved in a fatal human attack for one reason or another. Topping the list of deaths by dog in a twenty year period is the Pit Bull and Pit Bull mix at 66 human deaths. The Rottweiler and Rottweiler mix was responsible for 39 human deaths. The German Shepherd dog and mix were responsible for 17 human deaths. The Husky type dog was responsible for 15 human deaths as was the Malamute responsible for 12 human deaths. The Chow was responsible for 8 deaths while the Doberman was responsible for 9 human deaths. The Saint Bernard was responsible for 7 human deaths and the Great Dane was also responsible for 7 deaths. The Akita killed 4 people, the Bulldog 2, the Mastiff 2, the Boxer 2 and believe it or not the Labrador Retriever was responsible for 1 death while Lab mixes were responsible for 4 deaths. The following dogs were responsible for killing one human each during these twenty years: The Bullmastiff, Cheasapeake Bay Retriever, West Highland Terrier, Japanese Hunting Dog, Newfoundland, Coonhound, Sheepdog, Rhodesian Ridgeback and cocker Spaniel.


So, Pitbulls killed 66 PEOPLE while Labs and Lab mixes killed a total of 5. Anyone care to guess how many more Lab and Lab mixes live in this country compared to Pit bulls. Pit bulls account for a VERY small percentage of total dog population, yet they are far and away the most likely to be involved in a fatal attack on people. What I will never understand is how ANYONE could ever trust their child to be exposed to one. The BREED is in fact wired differently in the head. They tend to snap. It sickens me every time I hear someone that lost a child to one talk about what an amazing family pet it had been right up until the time it tore their child into pieces. What other breed is known to chase down joggers and KILL them for no reason? Anyone that thinks the BREED has nothing to do with the propensity for aggressive violence is living in a world of denial. Pit bulls were bred and "designed" for a very specific purpose. Their physical and psychological make-up is inherently dangerous. Why choose to ignore the facts?

 

That's the only kind of dog that has ever bit me. There are a lot of dog bites associated with them. They just don't do much damage when they do.

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Bones, read the post again, the 1st one didn't say he was growling at me. lol I don't care about dogs growling at me. As for Napoleon complex, not at all. I just know I'm not going to deal with someones dog trying to over power me. Say what you want about me, I don't care. I am the alpha of my house and propery. My dogs know this, my wife doesn't but they do. The guy who lives across the road had a beagle that met me at the mailbox every day barking but he just wants his head scratched. He got ran over by a truck. I don't just shoot dogs for no reason. I will if you, the owner won't.

 

Heres a link on them evil little bastards. Lol

http://pets.thenest.com/dog-aggression-biting-cocker-spaniel-5078.html

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Fletch, what you forget to understand is no dog should be left alone with a child. I'm sure the pomeranian that killed an infant in 2000 while his parent or whatever left him on the bed was a great dog till then. These dogs are not family pets, they are working dogs just like any other breed of sporting dog. They shouldn't be in the hands of ignorant or unresponsible owners. These dogs from the get go were never bred to be aggressive towards people. I know my history on the breed, not what I've read on the internet either like most people. The APBT was a fighting/ catch weight dog designed with a sizor bite that has less force and pressure per square inch than a lot of dogs but the way has teeth line up, they give him the ability to hold on longer than other breeds. I'm not ignoring facts, I don't think lots of people should own APBT's. Then again, I don't think people should be allowed to own other breeds of dogs, guns, bows or cars for that matter.

 

I picked out a Cocker pup from a litter when I was about 8 years old and she lived 16 years. She was my buddy. She also bit my best friend! lol

Those little suckers can be snappy.

 

We have a guy that comes to deer camp and he brings his dog which is a pit/lab mix. Talk about schizophrenia.

His dog is getting old and does have moments, usually toward smaller dogs that seem to bother her at the wrong times.

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