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2 black labs chasing deer out of my woods today. What would you do?

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Hunting' started by klutch454, Dec 17, 2013.

  1. Dan

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    Frenchy was partially right, my first post was trolling a bit. The rest of my posts, not so much.
     
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    Wow Dan. I'm surprises at that response from you. I have pit pups, almost 1 year old now, and they don't have an aggressive bone in em. Neighbor has a yellow lab and some other mut that come across MY hay field at me growling and showing teeth when I'm on my way to one of my stands. One more time of that and he won't have to worry about feeding them again. Its fine to protect their own property, but I won't put up with it on mine. Wont put up with mine being aggressive either.

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    So Pitbulls are about 4 percent of the total dog population but account for 50 percent of human deaths by dogs. Hmmm.....

    It does not take a genius to see the facts here. Pitbulls are wired differently. They snap. End of story.
     
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    Read more about the breed and what it was/is used for. Most people on here don't need to own one and if it were up to me, I would take them away from the general population as they are to stupid to own these dogs. There is more than just that 1 website tfox posted that talks about it. Again, people feed into all the hype of these dogs and the media weather you say it or not, your reading statistics from a HSUS sponsored site!!! The APBT is a poster dog for the HSUS!!!

    The TRUTH About Pit Bulls | Mid-America Bully Breed Rescue

    What's in a Name-Bully Breed and Pit Bull Myths - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

    ATTS Breed Statistics | American Temperament Test Society, Inc.

    The American pitbull terrier has a better temperment than several gun dogs and dogs you wouldn't think to have temperment issues at all.
     
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    sycamoretwitch Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I aint shooting someones dog. It just isn't worth that to me - I've had the exact same thing happen to me a few times this year and in years past.

    Not once did shooting the dogs cross my mind. I've got tags and thus permission to kill Whitetail deer, not someones pets.

    They should have them locked up - no doubt. But shoot a dog, not my style.
     
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    I don't shoot dogs. Never have, never will.

    Here's the thing that Pit Bull owners love to overlook. The damage potential. Sure, your pit might be loving and show you no sign of aggression. Introduce a stranger and you might see a completely different dog.
    The potential, however, has been bread into the dog of hundreds of years of selective breeding. Along with the potential aggression, they also have the size, and strength to do severe damage. Way more potential than any other "normal" breed. While there are lots of great pit bull owners, the majority of people that choose to own these dogs are not good dog owners. They want that mean, aggressive dog and many of them provoke these dogs to show their aggression.
    I guess my question, is why choose a pit bull? What about this type of dog attracts you to them? Why risk it? There are literally thousands of breeds to choose from, why own one with such a damage potential?
     
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    did some pit bull owner just say he shot a golden retriever b/c it was bearing its teeth and growling? I didn't notice Golden Retrievers on that list of dog attacks. But I guess that's one way to prove pit bulls are safe.
     
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    It wasn't about proving they are safe. It was a point that Pits aren't the only dogs to show aggression. Most wouldn't think a Golden or a Lab would act that way, since they're so lovable and cute, blah blah blah. My Lab was wonderful until the day he passed away. A true member of the family. So are my Pits. ALL dogs have the potential for aggression.
     
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    Ok, maybe cease to exist was a little strong. How about, there should be a lot less of them. Hell, I believe there should be a lot less dogs in this world, no matter the breed, period. Way too many people getting puppies not realizing that they turn into dogs. Puppies are cute, dogs are work.

    As for your choice in dogs, I'm surprised at that response from you. I'm surprised you would get a pit at all, much less multiple. Like Skywalker said above, why get a breed of dog that has a much higher probability of snapping and killing someone? Getting multiple of the same breed only increases your chances of one snapping and the other(s) following their lead and really ripping someone to shreds.

    Maybe licensing dog owners isn't such a bad idea.
     
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    Again, some much more so than others.
     
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    I would agree with you on this point. People down the road have 12 dogs that all run loose. They aren't bird dogs, or any kind of sporting breed. Just mutts all running the country side. Why would anyone feel the nees for that many dogs? I can't imagine the feed bill!

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    Thats easy to say when the dogs chase deer once or twice. But when its almost everytime you hunt, the owners won't do anything, and the county has no animal control......sometimes things happen. Like tfox said, I'm not letting Fido down the road ruin my property. I keep my dogs either on a leash or fenced in. If the owners cared about the pet, it wouldn't be free ranging.
     
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    I find this pretty strange. If you love your pet, keep them in a cage? No, if you live in the country, let a dog be a dog. Let that dog run free. They love to hunt, and the love to chase. It's what they do. Why keep them kenneled up all the time. Unless you're dog is dangerous, there's really no reason the keep them on a chain or in a cage. That's all assuming your talking about a country dog, if your in the city then life is different, keep them in the back yard, fenced in.
     
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    I do live in the country. My dogs are in a fenced yard because we live on a busy road, I respect my neighbors and don't want anything to happen to them. Who said anything about a cage?
     
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    Let a dog run wherever it pleases, anytime it pleases? Let it chase deer and other wildlife, if it pleases? I don't think so.

    I don't think people are saying others should keep their dogs in crates, but have some control over them. If they can't do that, they shouldn't be allowed to have the dogs.
     
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    I have no problem with my dog running free on our land....within my sight....she is never in a cage or on a leash.....but going wherever whenever is not acceptable and not a responsible action on my end.....my dog does not know property lines....I do....part of the reason we get along with our neighbors is because of the time we spent training and teaching our dog to obey us so she doesnt cause trouble for us or others.....chase things and run around.....absolutely......but when I say far enough she comes and thats really important.....there has to be limits to the freedom

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    I live in the country and have a hidden fence and my dog stays in the yard.

    But I do have neighbors and a busy road.




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    To be fair, I had one dog I couldn't keep in a pin or anything without him getting out. He got run over.



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    Who tells the dog "far enough" when you are at work?
     
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    My dogs live in the house, but they spend a lot of time outside. When they want out, I put them out. I don't supervise them. I live on a gravel road, nearest neighbor is half mile away. It's true country living, not this blacktop sorta county community stuff. I'm talking about real country, farm living. My dogs hardly ever leave the yard. I have plenty of control over my dogs, a quick whistle and a call of their names and they come running back to me. I don't look at dogs a possession, they are part of the family.
     

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