2 black labs chasing deer out of my woods today. What would you do?

My labs chase the deer around the house all the time. Granted we live in the city and I don't have to worry about ruining someone elses hunt, and they are only allowed to "exercise" late in the night/early morning. Tough call, but I imagine you got a couple adventure seekers that just happened to go through.

 

Wow...normally I find you to be quite reasonable and level headed but I couldnt disagree more here...was my question serious....absolutely......i know plenty of people with americans...staffs...whatever that have zero issues including myself...I have a ten year old that ive had since she was a pup...she has been the best dog I have ever owned...including my labs...she is incredibly smart loyal and loving and she shows it everyday....shes protected our home from a break in....she protected our little girl from being attacked by another dog that got away from its owner which attacked and bit my wife and then proceeded toward my daughter....the cop that showed up when a neighbor called was even impressed with her temperament as he watched the other dog going crazy and her sitting quiet and calm by my side while we were sorting out the situation....she knows the difference between rough housing with me and playing with my daughter and couldnt be more gentle with her....she pulls her ears steps on her feet climbs all over her and all the while her tail is just a waggin...I could go on and on....does the breed in general have its problems....yes...but to group the entire population into those issues is crazy to me....my daughter would be heart broken if a hunter shot her buddy...and i would be appalled if it was strictly because she was a certain breed (granted my dog does not roam the woods unless with me and does not go out of my sight so its a non issue for me).....cliche or not....it IS how they are raised...I know you could care less about my experiences and wont change your opinion...and im not going on any further than this but quite frankly.....youre crazy....the all pit bulls should be killed because they are a mean inbred vicous and nasty breed thing is garbage.....ill never shoot someones pet...you dont know if theres a little one at home wondering where their buddy is











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Backstrap, I'm glad you've had good luck with your dog and have treated her right. Same with your friends' dogs. Honestly though, I wouldn't leave my kids alone with them. Why? Check Tfox's post above. Sorry man, stats don't lie.

I'd be willing to bet anyone that within 25 years anyone who wants to own a dog, any kind of dog, will have to be licensed. I don't think its a great idea, as I believe in personal freedoms, but there's a lot of people who shouldn't own dogs. No matter the breed. Now, before anyone gets all crazy and starts comparing licensing dog owners to gun owners, remember, dogs have the capability to think on their own. If people can't keep track of their dogs or can't raise them properly, should they be allowed to have them?

 

I'm not wasting anything. lol It is how the dog is raised, just like how people are raised to think and act the way they do. I've been involved with this breed and several other breeds of dogs for 15+ years. I've seen my fair share of culls and good dogs.

The numbers back what the media puts out. Every dog that has a "look" of a pitbull is classified as one. The paper said 2 pitbull breed dogs attacked the girl I know but we called and filed a complaint against them for writing it when the owner admited they were 100% pure bred dalmations. A lab or mutt doesn't make headlines, why? Because Americans are easy to buy into whatever they put in front of them. I spent 4 years in Iraq and Afghanistan and every 3 months I would get online to check my facebook account and people would be freaking out because of bombs and such but it didn't happen in my area. The media brings fear to the world and we buy into it.

The people who are against guns and want to take them away from us say the same thing. doesn't matter if 90% of us are good, responsible people who own them. It's the 1% that uses them against people that make them bad. Kids shoot up schools, it's all the guns fault, nothing to do with the kid and how he was raised or the pressure his parents put on him. Blame the tool that was used. Next someone will shoot someone with a bow, then it will be lets ban those because they can hurt people.

Sorry for thread jacking, to the OP, Labs have a high prey drive as any sporting dog does. Might just be wondering around, I had a beagle that stood under my stand and barked for a while till I climbed down and called the owner. He got away from him and ended up on my property, kinda funny because I thought for sure he would leave but he just sat there! If all else fails, fire crackers might be a good thing. lol

 

Finally we agree on something!!! LMBO I don't think sporting dogs in general no matter what the breed is should be owned by the general public. It's to risky to have a dog with a high prey drive in the hands of people who don't know about the dog or what it is cabable of. I do feel the same way with having to own a license for a dog before it's all said and done with.

 

Like I said before, you can't compare guns to dogs, as dogs have a mind of their own.

Also, my opinion has nothing to do with media, it has everything to do with people's experiences that I know or have met.

 

I wouldnt worry too much about the random "deer chase" unless it becomes a habit. If thats all it took to scare all the deer within hearing range away, there would be no deer in nw florida and s alabama as all we did for years was run no less that 10 to 15 walker hounds after every deer that crossed a dirt road for a 100 square miles around here, surprisingly enough, they were back the next day, only to get chased again. Deer usually know when "they" are being chased, Ive watched many deer simply stand still and watch a herd of dogs run right by them. No sence running if not being chased I quess,..and a mature buck will literally run into a doe to throw the dogs off on her while he slips off to the side,....

 

Retreviers have a tendency to retrieve. Pointers tend to point.... etc. But when a breed selected for jaw strength, aggressiveness, and holding and shaking, mauls a kid...it's suddenly just bad owners. How convenient.

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Labs are the number 1 breed of dog in this country. Pit bull terrior breeds, are well down the list and still rank number one in attacks

Pit bulls lead attacks even though they are well down the list of ownership.

Absolutely some get miscategorized and the statistics might be slightly misleading but even pit owners need to recognize there is an issue.

I work with a guy that breeds his male staffordshire (I believe) out and I've had this discussion with him and he was a little taken back with those stats.

I doubt Staffords account for many of those attacks.

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Pits really aren't that aggressive by nature but when they have an issue, their strengths tend to kill or mame. A lab snaps and retreats. Not much damage occurs.

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Maybe we need to get back on topic. Sorry.

If it becomes a habit, then I have issues and will take care of it by any means necessary.

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It's easy to google and find other stats:

DOG BITE STATISTICS 1955 TO PRESENT

Dan is about 50 percent troll and should be taken lightly.

For those that like the stats and Dans way of thinking we should probably kill all of our horses too, because they do more damage than the dogs and they have a mind of their own:

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I agree with you guys to an extent....Dan tfox and Christine.....the stats are there and I would not leave my kid around a friends dog regardless of breed even if I knew that that dog was a good dog.....my dog is different because we own it love it care for it and know it .....the question is would you shoot it if it was the one chasing the deer....shooting it just because it is a pit as opposed to a lab is what bothers me....that could be my dog who is one of the good ones that happened to get out of the fenced in yard and got to chasing some deer like a normal dog would do.....if its not doing anything different than the lab chasing deer then why shoot it without knowing where it came from or whos it is

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Edited...sry I quoted instead of edit...

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"I" wouldn't care what the breed was. A dog getting out once or twice is different than dogs left to run wild.

Dogs left to run wild, regardless of breed become dangerous when they get in packs.

But all that aside, I'm not letting someone else's "pet" take control of my property or lease. Like I said, they may get a couple passes but once it becomes the norm, it will cease to be an issue if I have anything to do about it.


And I have a very large black lab.

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Not quite 50% troll, maybe 20%.

You can say all you want about my "way of thinking." Fact is, I can look at the issue without rose colored glasses, because I don't own one of those dogs and I'll repeat, stats don't lie. People who continually blame bad owners for dog's problems have their head buried in the sand with "their way of thinking."

 

Acceptable for sure.....at some point its an issue that needs to be dealt with regardless of where its from or who owns it

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FYI, I wouldn't shoot any dog that was randomly chasing deer. They would get a pass on their first couple offenses and if I could locate the owner. If I did find the owner, they may get a couple more passes.

 

I had to have a little fun. Yeah probably 20 percent, we all have a little troll in us. Some breeds do have a track record and I am a dog lover, but can see this. I am not sure what the answer is. I point the finger at the owners.

 

Thats what I was looking for.....agreed

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