Yes we are. This is what some of us have been saying for a while now. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
Did you drink before the age of 21? To generalize it more, did anyone on this site NOT drink before the age of 21?
I don't think that is the point. PARENTS allowing and even throwing a drinking party for their teenagers is irresponsible. There have been a few here try it and they wound up in court. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
I'm picturing these kind of drinking parties While the lawsuit is bogus, I have mixed feelings on the "drinking parties". My folks didn't do that for me, but I did drive cars, boats, snowmobiles and shoot guns before I was supposed to. Under controlled supervision, I can see the benefit of allowing your kids to do dangerous things.
My parents raised my brother and I perfectly fine and we drank with them periodically before we were 21. We are both mature adults who have never been in trouble, had great grades, etc, etc. Never once did I think "I hope we can drink with my dad (friend)!!! I hope he buys us alcohol so we can make bad decisions!!" Your rationalization is a bit extreme and going as far as saying parents who let their children have an OCCASIONAL drink are morons/not responsible is plain silly. Loosen your noose a bit. I fully understand the legal consequences that can come from it... But let's not get into that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
My son turns 20 this summer, still underage. This past year before he left for bootcamp when we'd be at dinners, cookouts, etc I would have some beers with him. I've kind of always felt if a person is old enough to possibly have to fight and die for their country they should probably be allowed alcohol, I'm also sure there are reasons the law in most areas is 21. I fully intend to do the same as far as alcohol with the others when they're older. Parents should acknowledge that their kids will drink and while I don't "party" with mine I want them to have a real world understanding of alcohol and how it can impact their body and decisions. I only hope I am the first person they drink with, statistically speaking I probably won't be. I understand Fletch's post though, growing up we all knew who had the "cool" parents that didn't care if we hung out drinking and smoking, wasn't many of them but we knew who they were. Don't be the "cool" parents.
This case should have never been allowed at court. It should have been thrown out, with explicit instructions that it would never be allowed in court. We have lost our way in this country.
Entitlement generation. IMO We drank as kids and so did my parents but they never allowed us to. We had to steal a beer here and there. Or get an older brothers friend to buy us a case. I like parents who allow underage drinking in their homes a whacked.
So its better to bury your head in the sand and force your kids to steal alcohol and sneak out other places to drink than to allow a controlled environment for it? I just feel there are two sides to every coin. Alcohol among high schoolers is common, and it does happen. Yes even with your kids, whether you choose to believe it or not. The parents that have a strict no alcohol policy forcing their kids to take extremes to partake are no better than the ones buying the alcohol for them and allowing a big party with it. Both are doing it wrong IMO. My parents had more of a dont ask dont tell policy which I appreciate looking back. They certainly never bought me alcohol and said open party at the house, we will get lost for the night.... but they also never were naive enough to act like it wasn't happening and get mad at me if they caught me and my buddies with beer. Teaching responsibility goes a lot farther than forbidding activities IMO.
This is exactly what my dad did to me... He knew we drank with buddies just like he did when he was a teenager. He never told me not to drink.. But told me the consequences of what could happen if I got caught, and if we did get In trouble he wouldn't be bailing us out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
My dad would not allow me to drink at all. Besides my mom having some beer here and there, I never saw alcohol in the refrigerator, nor ever saw my father drink, ever. I had friends whose parents drank all the time and even allowed their sons/daughters to drink at age 18, and even have friends over to hang out and drink way before legal age. Every persons life is different as is their living situation and level of maturity. In this cookie cutter age of raising kids, combined with "children raising experts" telling us what to do along the way, it is refreshing that guys like NEW understand that some things, ok many things, are better left to the parent to decide.
It just comes down to responsibility and maturity. Some people get it early and some people in their 40s still don't have it..
Not sure if we agree or not. My parents did the same and just looked the other way but my friends parents that openly allowed it in there home still have those kids at home or in a cemetery. Parents should act like parents so kids can act like kids. IMO
I think drinking is another issue. But as far as I know, in every state, you are considered a child until you reach 18 or are emancipated. You can be emancipated by a court. You also are emancipated automatically if you get married. As long as you are considered a child, your parents are completely responsible for your care and custody. Once you turn 18, you acquire all the rights and responsibilities of an adult. You're on your own. I don't see that she has any case at all. However, it's quite likely that the parents signed a contact with the school agreeing to pay her tuition. They would then still be responsible for that aside from any issues with their daughter.
Basically this and what Tembry said was how I was raised. There were never any parties or at least big underage drinking parties at my house but if we were having some kind of cook out or whatever I was allowed a beer or two. But nobody that drank ever left. Looking back at it it was actually one of my best memories with my dad. Standing around the grill during those cook outs having a drink and talking. He passed away when I was 19-20 so never got any other chance. While its not really that big of a deal having left home right out of HS didn't get to spend a lot of time with him those last couple years.
I think there is a huge difference between allowing your own children to have a drink or two in a controlled environment and allowing someone else's child to do the same. If they aren't yours the decisions on how they are raised aren't either.
My wife is Cuban and she talks about how latins let there kids drink at a very young age and tells of her cousin and her having a to much wine at a wedding when is was 13 and her mother having to take care of her and her fathers hangovers the next day
I did, but back then, Wisconsin had an 18 drinking age. I think I may have had a beer or two before then also. I think this girl needs five up side the head, unless she can pay her own way thru school, have her own place, she should follow the rules set forth by her parents, no ifs ands or buts !!!! Maybe I'm old fashioned the way I was brought up, but thats the way it should be !!
