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12 yards? Kind of funny to me.

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by NY Bowhunter, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. NY Bowhunter

    NY Bowhunter Grizzled Veteran

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    I had a stand taken down, packaged nicely for me and set 15 yards away from where it was. I caught up with who I thought may have done it and inquired about it. According to him, it was 12 yards on his uncles property. I kind of disagree with his assumption of the property line but he claims hes' right. Actually i thought (according to my tax map and aerial photo) it was a good 30 yards on the good side. I'm not one to push the limits or hunt someone elses land. Wouldn't want it the other way either so I abide by where I'm allowed to hunt.

    The thing is, we have both given each other permission to track and recover deer on our lands. I've actually seen one of his wounded and walk by my stand a couple years ago. He was coming after it and I told him to stop because I saw it bed down about 100 yards away still alive. He waited about 20 yards behind my stand and I watched it until I was sure it expired. Then I helped him drag it out (through my land because it was much easier).

    Now he rips down my setup over 12 yards lol. He knows I only bowhunt. There is absolutely no way I can even shoot on his land either. I don't know I guess it doesn't really matter 12 yards or 112 yards in theory. Just seems a little strange to me. I was nice about it as was he. Like I said there was really no doubt in my mind when I set it that I was well on my land. Half of me wanted to smack him upside the head for touching my stuff without talking about it and making sure. Who's to say he's not 12 or 30 yards wrong? But I just let it go. Whatever..... I'll find something 13 yards away lol.
     
  2. UPbowhunter

    UPbowhunter Weekend Warrior

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    If you guys have agreed to be able to track on each others properties that is a great plus that doesn't allways come easy. I think you were right in be cordgile about the property line, alot of guys are gona say no you have to bite back, but I would save that for a day when its needed. Keeping things right between you guys could be the difference between you being able to recover your buck or not. Besides that it allways feels better to do things right.
     
  3. Ben/PA

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    Apologize profusely. Tell him you want to make it clear you had absolutely no intent to place a stand on his property or even right on the line. Honestly, doing this will probably make him feel like an ass for not just discussing this with you before tearing down your set. You might also mention that you feel terrible that he had to take down your ladder and that you wish he had called you to take care of it, before having to do so himself.

    Maybe show him your map as well.
     
  4. HuntingBry

    HuntingBry Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I was of the "smack him upside the head" mindset until reading this. I agree with Ben, this is a great approach. It makes you look good and him like a tool.

    On second thought, just smack him upside the head. :evilgrin:
     
  5. huntwi88

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    hey it could be worse. I left my climber out in a tree during this last season and i go to it and see that some has cut a bunch of straps on my summit climber. where my feet hook in to climb and some of my seat straps. and my climber was a good 75 yards from the line fence!!
     
  6. ultramax

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    how about contacting the real landowner and asking him to walk the property lines with you as a good neighbor, I would be fine to go with someone so there are no further disputes about a property line.

    also i am not saying this about you it just my place i am talking about.


    I dropped a guy off are hunting ground this year because he could not stay away from the fencelines, he was looking to get us all kicked off this place i worked so hard to keep and i am not going to lose it over one sloppy hunter that knew the rules when i showed him the place. so when he asked me to come out and drag a dear from the across a fence line that i told him to stay away from. i told him not to come back
    thanks... my sister in laws brother in law. bye bye
     
  7. ultramax

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    ps. this is 325 ac plot why does someone need to hunt the fence line? just saying.
     
  8. fatsbucknut

    fatsbucknut Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I'd get it surveyed and then call him and tell him to put it back up.
     
  9. ultramax

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    if you get a chance to check out the corner of the ground take a metal detector with you to find the surveyors metal post/ marker that they drive into the ground, they are there

    my new neighbor the home next to mine found out that the road into his home is really on my ground + another fifty feet on the other side of the fence. he didnt read the survey or read the disclosure/easement. I do have a metal detector and showed him the markers and said he should talk to the Realtor about it but i do enjoy the new gravel on the road... we worked it out but some people are clueless.:D
     
  10. NC_Bowhunter

    NC_Bowhunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Well I am a Tax Mapper. This goes out to everyone. Never use a Tax Map for boundary issues. The only way for the lines to be right on is for a State Plane Survey with grid coordinates on it. However most surveyors around here do not do that. I deal with it everyday where property owners are disputing lines based on our maps. Unless you know where the corners are or the two owners have an agreement, I would not base anything on those maps. Just FYI
     
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    Unbelievable. Sounds like to me, that he has seen a buck on around the area where your stand location is, and doesn't want you to harvest it. So, he makes claims that your too close to his property line so you won't have a shot at it. Maybe he's jealous cuz your a better hunter? Just thinkin' out loud.
     
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    youngfart Die Hard Bowhunter

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    NY Bowhunter
    Just curious, is it not law that the land owner has to allow permission to retrieve a fallen deer on private property in the States if it's been shot on alotted land and happens to travel onto a nearby property as they often do? I know up here in Canada it is,but not until you get permission. Otherwise it's trespassing:argue:.
    Rocky:bash:
     
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    rickmur Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Someone didn't read the entire original post by NY. LMAO.
    BTW ol buddy, your lucky he didn't just take the stand and plead ignorance.
     
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    Did he know it was your stand ?? If he did and you've gotten along in the past... I am surprised he handled it that way unless he doesn't know you well enough to be able to contact you.

    You handled it right. Better to keep the peace over 12 yards then start a ruckus... especially if it is ok to retrieve deer on his uncle's land.

    Tim
     
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    States have different laws on retrieiving.

    I don't know for other states but in North Dakota...

    It is legal to retrieve your deer on other's land even if it is posted without their permission.

    You can not carrying a bow or rifle to retrieve on their land.

    Only " you " can retrieve and drag it out. No buddy can help you. They would be charged with tresspassing.

    You better be able to prove you are tracking a wounded deer if it is not in sight to retrieve. They can press tresspassing charges against you otherwise.

    If they have told you in the past that you can't retrieve deer or catch you and kick you off... then it is illegal to retrieve deer unless you get permission from them first. If they say no... then a Game Warden is involved and you still might not be able to retrieve it. Landowner has final say.

    Tim
     
  16. bigbuckdown

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    you know what i was taught to be respectful and that you get more bees with honey than you do with vinegar but daddy also taught me to keep my damn hands off things that doesnt belong to me! that woulda caused problems tween me and that fellar! makes me mad thinking bout it! it aint even the bastards land it's his uncles. i'd go knock on his uncles door and get a real quick understanding where we stood ask him if he told his nephew to touch your stand and make sure he knew that you dont give a damn if its your own brother you dont take to folks putting thier hands on your property! and it wont be tolerated! if you cant stand by your principles as a man then to hell w/ hunting. i'd catch up to his nephew and tell him dont ever touch your damn property again! then i'd go have the property line marked and if i caught the nephew over on yours i'd show him the line and tell him to get his ass back across it.
     
  17. bigbuckdown

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    anybody on here would be madder than hell if somebody who wasnt even the property owner was trying to tell you where your property line is after the fact that he put his hands on your stand. i'd need bail money cause i'd have whooped that fella! you dont put your damn hands on a mans family or property especially his hunting gear! there is enough crap to deal with,without some idiot messing with your peace of mind i.e. your hunting gear! i tell you now you can call me a hot head or whatever but i'll never apologize or backdown from what i believe is right especially when its mine.
     

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