would i take the shot? no but if i practiced out to that far and the wind was calm and the deer wasnt spooked and had no idea you was there he aint gonna duck the arrow. he wont hear your bow release a arrow at 100 yards and if you have heavy hard hitting arrows why wouldnt it be a ethical shot?
Exactly Pearce! The key is practice. I would never take a shot at a yardage I have not practiced at and one that I did not feel proficient at. And folks who have never practiced at those ranges shouldn't take those kind of shots. I've had a few friends here out west shoot deer, antelope and even an elk from between 70- 110 yards. All were clean kills. They keys there were they practiced at those ranges and used sharp broadheads. But, we should always be looking for that clean kill shot. I also did a YouTube video a couple years back testing the sound of the arrow with different broadheads and asking the question if deer jump the string or the sound of the bow releasing the arrow: http://www.huntography.com/blog/201...deer-jump-string-or-sound-of-arrow-broadhead/ I think at long ranges the animal can't really here the bow. They may here the arrow and broadhead whizzing towards them but not the bow. Here's two cold shots at 90 yards I took on Friday. I practice at long ranges a lot bit it's still all about proper form for me and not rushing the shot. As you can see I still have some work to do. - Rudy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
A more interesting observation is guys take long iffy shots out west on public/ blm land at antelope/mulies yet would never risk it on their own whitetail property. Hunter controlled land vs. public I guess.
Exactly. I'm flinging 29" ics pro hunter 300 arrows. I'm pretty sure my whole set up is about 440 grains. I never ever reuse broadheads or arrows after a kill. The arrow I will throw in my practice arrow pile. The broadheads I throw away. I know blades can be replaced etc. but in case any minor damage has been done due to bone etc I throw away. Always sharp and factory made before I fling it at a animal.
It won't be traveling anywhere 300 fps at the 100 yard mark Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
Everyone has their own ethics. Ill take a long shot but I'm not setup for a 100. On a whitetail, that would be a no go for me. If your tearing up loops, you're release is causing it. It may have a bur or you need to go to a release designed for loops. Stay away from the metal hunks of junk. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
Tfox, the problem is that the loop is being chewed up on the outside of the loop. The Tru Fire Hardcore release doesn't contact the loop there. Here's a pic from the thread I posted a while back:
Chago I agree, confidence is cucial in any kill shot, I took a good bull moose a few years back at 63 yards and would do it again and again and under the circumstance's my bull stopped at 22yd ,but gave me no kill shot and then again at 46 yards and again no shot. He stopped broadside at 63 and was looking uphill and was relaxed.I ranged him and held high on his backbone as my sites stop @60 . He took three strides up hill after the hit and staggered and rolled back down the hill. Double lunged him. I also shoot 4x's a week at 70 yards and feel I could make the shot comfortably. Again on a whitetail, I haven't had the opertunity to take a long shot and as most of my stands allow for, at the most a 40 yard shot! Maybe one day as I'm stalking a mulie I'll have the opertunity too take the long shot! Rocky
That's why they make guns. Bowhunting is challenging, so don't make it more challenging by making a bad shot on a deer that far. Let those people who don't care do that. 45yds is my max. Usually I set up by trails, so the shot on the deer would be like 15yds, which results in a good clean shot, and usually some good meat and jerky.
Here's another example. Troy Spolum passed on this deer and had a 12yrd shot 20 minutes later. Check it out. Fyi, It's my favorite episode. It's called colorblind.
it is no where near ethical. even if you did slip an arrow behind the shoulder the amount of KE lost would leave very little penetration that would only wound an animal. just silly and pointless to take that kind of shot.
That is odd. It is clearly making contact with your bow somewhere (good thing it isn't metal) or it is a really bad material. You'll know soon enough since you got sone better material. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
I agree! This is a big reason why I have pins out to 80. We all make mistakes and being able to follow up a poor first shot can make a difference.
You are correct. Wasnt thinking lol. Thanks for correcting me. Sent from my SCH-R970 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Original shot was just over 40 and I knew it was going to be difficult to stop him in a shooting lane, where I could film, draw and get a clean shot off while he would be on high alert. Too much risk and that buck was making his rounds in that field all day so I knew there was a good chance he would come by again. So I chose not to take just over a 40 yard shot due to all the elements but 100....come on. IMO that's not an ethical shot even in perfect conditions on any animal. I practice out to 60-70 but only to increase my confidence for the situation where a 40 yard shot is presented and I feel I can make an ethical kill. I've made bad shots and wasn't able to recover the animal and that's the worst feeling in hunting....I'd much rather end the day with a great encounter, a healthy animal and a chance to outsmart that animal a second time.
Real animals move targets don't there's no way to judge what is going to happen while that arrow is flying towards it's intended target, so when you gut shoot or hit it in the arse it's all good right? Having respect for the game we are hunting should Be rule #1 Not let's se if we can slow the animal down and hope there is a back up shot.
100% pass through on my buck last year at 84 yards. I have the broadhead I can take a pic and show you. I found it buried in dirt and it was mangled as my soil is all rock and gravel here. Rage 100 grain 2 blade. Mind you I pull 70lbs 31" back.
