I use a one pin slider (HHA) and am able to slide it with my thumb if I don't have time to range it and have to estimate yardage. One pin = minimum chance for choosing wrong pin even though you have the yardage down when quick action is required. IMHO of course.
I almost went with a slider last year. Though, I'd be afraid of fidgeting with the yardage marker while a deer was making its way in. All personal preference of course.
I hear that so much.....1 pin out to whatever yardage...........I dont care what bow you shoot it is impossible!!!! You are compensating!!!
I shoot one pin out to 30 , my first pin , sighted in at 25 its dead on 20 and 30 no compensating what so ever .
I know a lot of people worry about moving the Slider on a HHA, Honestly it has never cost me an animal and I have shot the HHA for over a decade.
It's all relative. What's dead on to someone else is NOT dead on to me. Dead on to me is shootings my best groups exactly in the middle of what i'mtrying to hit.My pins are at 5 yard increments because I truly want them set as close to perfect as possible. Even though 2 pins are in the vitals at any given time and yardage. I will use 2 pins in the vitals if yardage isn't known exactly.
Well shooting a 60lb Bowtech Invasion with a 310 gr arrow at 333 fps , it is nearly imposible to set the pins at 5 yards , let alone 10 yards .....lol , even with my hunting set up a 360 gr arrow i have 5 pins in my sight and from the top pin to the bottom pin there is 3/8'' pin spacing that the pins are crammed in and that distance is 20 / 30 then 40 , 50 , 60 , 70 , so with todays bows its not imposible to shoot two distances with one pin and still be dead on in a 2'' circle
I agree with Tfox, It can't be "Dead On" Zeroed in perfect.... If you took a Hooter Shooter and your zeroed at 25, shot an arrow at 20 yards then backed it out to 30... I'd bet a paycheck the shafts don't even touch. It could possibly close, but not "dead on" It's Impossible, it's physics.
Agreed. I just looked at the ballistic data for an arrow traveling at 300fps. If the the bow was zeroed at 30 yards and you use that pin then the arrow will hit 3.2 inches high at 20 yards. If the bow was zeroed at 20 yards and you use that pin to shoot at 30 the arrow will hit 4.85 inches low.
You can increase pin gap by simply increasing sight plane out further. Simply stated,I can tighten my pin gap by bringing my sight in closer.And my bow is a 2011 so I would consider that todays equipment. Lol
Glad to find this thread, my brother in law and hunting partner got a new mathews this year, not sure exactly which one, but he is doing the same thing. He is on from ten to forty yards with just his top pin. Its pretty impressive, and confusing at the same time. Just a super flat trajectory I guess.
He's compensating... or shooting high/low... No way around it. (Pet peeve for me I guess) but really it's impossible to be dead on, I can shoot one pin on a bow that shoots 250fps from 10-60 yards, if I know how to compensate. Yes more speed is going to result in "less" drop... but that arrow is going to drop It's physics.
My point was that pin gap can be manipulated by more than just arrow speed. The fact that there is. 3/8 gap clearly shows there is a pretty good difference in impact.People get confused on this subject all the time. Poi has alot to do with group sizes. Good shooters have a 4" group at 40 and 2" at 20. If you shoot on the low end of your group at 20 and high at 40. Some think the poi is the same problem is that you can shoot on the high side at 20 and low side at 40 just as easily. There is a difference of 6" right there.
