But that's the issue here. The fact that they were drawn on and detained by the police for doing something well within their rights.
They were causing a disturbance and that is not legal. Once the police figured out the situation, then they were sent on their way. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
So would I, and as I've said all along the police were well within their rights to stop and question them. Once they determined there was no harm in what they were doing, they should have been released.
What part of creating a disturbance don't you understand. You can't do this. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
You know I just re-read the entire DWI video thread because I could have sworn you took up for the cop in that video, but you didn't even post in it. Dammit.
With all do respect you are wrong. These men were not maliciously causing any disturbance. It would be like if a flamboyant cross-dresser was rollerskating up and down the sidewalk. Everyone would stare, some would be appalled, Some would leave the area, but if rollerskating on the sidewalk is legal the he/she isn't doing anything wrong. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it illegal.
I disagree, the cops disagree and so do all the people that called them. This , imo is just like yelling fire in a crowded theatre. If it had been a holstered weapon that can reasonably be used for self protection and this happened, then I would agree. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
What did they do to create a disturbance? Exercising their right to open carry? Which laws are we choosing to enforce? Obviously they were not creating a disturbance, they hadn't eve made it to their destination they were walking down the street. If they had been, they would have been cited for creating a disturbance. I would go out on a limb and say the police created just as much of a disturbance by drawing their weapons on these men then these guys did carrying their AR15's
If the Cops had any legal recourse they would have taken it. They would have ticket these guys. They didn't, they let them go. No tickets were issued, no arrests were made. If these men were inciting such a Panic, they would have at least been ticketed. The cops reacted swiftly and that's good, but once it was determined that they were within their legal rights, they should have been let on their way. I'm playing devil's advocate here. I don't agree with what they did. But they did nothing illegal and should not have been detained for 45 minutes. 2-5 minutes tops.
It would have been a disturbance if they were pointing them at people and yelling "BANG! BANG!". I agree that openly carrying the gun is their right. The cops questioned them, and then should have followed/watched them closely the rest of the time. The cops had no right to detain them. With that said, those guys suck.
There is no good reason to be going to a farmer's market with an assault rifle on your back and a pistol at your side. Just becasue its legal does not mean it was a good idea. Let's show a little common sense folks. If you need to carry an assault rifle for protection, maybe you need to spend a little more time at the range. Personally all I need is my 5 shot revolver.
It is not your place to tell me or anyone what we "need" for protection. That is up to the individual. I don't think people should eat fast food. It's bad for you, it keeps families from sitting around the table for supper, it makes you fat. If you need to eat fast food maybe you should take a cooking class or get a different job...see what I did there. It's not my right to tell you what to eat. Just like it's not your right to tell me what to carry.
They ran the weapons to be sure they were legal. That's why it took so long from what I gather. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
All while they had these individuals detained, and by detained I mean handcuffed. The police do not have the right to detain a person without probable cause.
Which is a violation of the right to privacy. If there is no open report of rifles matching that description being stolen, then the police have no right to run the serial numbers. Next they will just walk up and ask for your id to make sure you are a legal citizen. "Papers please..." Unless they have reason to suspect you are illegal they shouldn't be able to check. (being mexican, indian, or paki is not a reason) Just like carrying a rifle is not a reason to think it's stolen. Would two thieves that stole rifles be walking down the sidewalk with them slung over their shoulders? Common sense...
If the cops. Start following, then we're screaming harrasment. If the cops let them go after a 5 minute questioning and then they go kill a 20 people, then we're screaming why didn't they do something. They did the only thing they could to ensure the safety of everyone and imo, they did it legally. The cop in the dui video was wrong. These were right. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
