Political venting

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. trial153

    trial153 Grizzled Veteran

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    You cant smell anything over the your neighbors meth fumes.

    Its been a week and your law and order president been as limp as wet noodle so far.
    While he was cowered in an bunker tweeting how safe he and his famliy was, americans were defending their families and properties from looters and pillagers.
    Four Americans died when Hillery left them hanging out to dry at Bengahazi . Trumps body count is higher then that already, as he did the same thing, leaving americans to die. Your blind tribalism is a joke. This whole situation represents as failure of leadership from the top down, both of these parties.
     
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    Name me one billionaire that has never had a bankruptcy filing.

    I'll wait
     
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    Here is a thought, when when DC police and secret service ask the crowds to move back. They actually move back. I know many here were raised that they have all the power and they don't have to follow the rules. Wait wait, correction, rules that are not given by teachers,professors and administer. But thats not the real world.
     
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    You Stop that ! You'll fry his brains with reality.
     
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    Yea I've seen all these "peaceful" protest. Ironic that they always seem to end with fighting cops and tearing up cities.

    What's also ironic is less than a month ago (maybe longer who knows) armed protesters went into the MI capital building and capital to protest, yet not much went down. Also ironic the huge 2A rally in VA with thousands of armed protesters of every background lasted most of day, also without incident. Think there may be a pattern emerging.


    I don't really care about political parties, if you dont realize they're all **** it's gonna be a long life. Also if you don't realize a person that spends 4-8 years in office has littel effect on anything when everyone else has been there for 20, 30, 40 years you'll never be satisfied.

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  6. cls74

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    Exactly, I did not vote for Trump in the Primary. If Trump, Hillary and Candidate X were all tied at 33.3% heading into the general election I would have voted Candidate X.

    Candidate X was not in the race, it was Trump or Hillary. This year itnis Trump or Obiden's VP pick. It's another Trump vote for me


    Ginsburg likely will not make it another 4 years on the bench, death or otherwise, and possibly a second pick as well. My vote is once again going to be SCOTUS heavy. The day the court turns completely left is the day this nation is forever lost.

    We've seen that it is the conservative Justices who keep the balance of the courts in check. We won't get liberal justices moving into the conservative or morderate voting sectors on cases.

    Everyone is worried about Roe vs Wade, yet it still stands coming up on 4 years after its impending doom.
     
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    shouldn’t the “unknown”people be protesting this year? When is everyone going to wake up? “They”are doing it again trying to pit the races against each other. The real issue is blacks are committing more crimes than whites per capita which leads to more confrontation with police which leads to more probability of something bad happening like it just did. Poverty and the welfare state and lack of father figures in the home is the problem.....which leads to crime, which leads to police intervention. I honestly don’t know how the police don’t just throw their hands up and say screw it. We are on strike. Everyone do what you want. Forget about 911. Call your mom if you need help. Or maybe we just have no laws for minorities so they aren’t being picked on? I know a few cops that avoid pulling black people over even though they know they are breaking the law because they don’t want to end up a target. It’s sad really. Forgive the Sarcastic rant I don’t mean to be facetious.
     
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    Trial, you have the same crap, just on different days, dont you ever change your Depends ...

    the riots/anarchy/looting could have been squashed early on, but NOOOOO, the DEMOCRAT mayors and governors didnt want to piss off the rioters who happen to be ... wait for it ... DEMOCRATS !! ... so, the Dem politicians let it go on and on and on.... this fluster cluck is all on the DEMOCRAT mayors and politicians for not shutting this down when it started .... you know, kinda like YOUR Gov. Cuomo blowing it out his ass on the Covid virus thingy and DeBlasio screwing that up also as he has done in NYC with the riots .... there is no one to blame but the democrats/liberals/socialists and the rioters (thugs/punks/criminals) for having this continue .... now, go back to your cry closet .... sheesh ...
     
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    Eh, Germ likes to nitpick on the little things, then you bring something up and he replies with a "gotcha" comment like he layed the trap and knew someone would bite.

    Then you refute a post with an Obama reference he says he doesn't care about that, we're talking about this president today. Yet he'll jump on a 6 year old post from Trump, blaming him for the Riot's today.

    The fact is, Obama was/is a big reason that today's riots are what they are. From his handling of Treyvon Martin and "he could have been my son" to the support of Ferguson protestors false narrative still being chanted today "Hands up, don't shoot". Baltimores mayor issuing a stand down to LEO after Freddie Gray's death saying we have to give them space to destroy things. She likes to say she never meant it like that, but do those who defend her also defend Trump when what he said was not exactly what he meant?
     
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    See there you go, he'll have to ice his head the rest of the night now..lol
     
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    Made me laugh, well done.


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    Did you watch it or are you just reciting memes without posting them??

    Pretty sure it's the latter, because if you feel the crowd there was nothing but peaceful you are not watching.

    Guessing you seen this one or one very similar?

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    If your have anything other than whataboutism then try again and this time make it semi coherent. Otherwise save it. Because all you are is a partisan hack who tows his party line and regurgitate ' it's talking points.
     
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    You and I both know that it’s the very minute minority which ruin it for those that are doing things the right way. The people rioting now are no better than the dodo right wing nuts who killed that person in Charlottesville a few years ago. Remember the “very fine people”? Any sane president would at a bare minimum address the country, the whole country, and call for peace. Rather the big guy wants to preach to his minority base and look like a big strong boy.

    I forgot that I should only post in this thread if I am licking the orange mans boots.
     
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    I don't have a problem with what Trump did with the church, up to the point of the bible pose. That was a bit confusing for me, honestly I was expecting him to say he would donate his own money, or possibly his next salary, to restoring the church.

    The crowd push back, I don't think was for his moment. I think they were pushing back the perimeter because, honestly, Friday night(I think it was) the crowd was way too close for their own safety.

    I mean seriously, does anyone here want to be that first "Look ma, I'm on candid camera" moment scaling the Whitehouse fence and what awaits on the other side?

    Now, had they let the crowd back in after Trump returned to the Whitehouse, I may agree to an extent, but the "few" bad apples really do pose the biggest risk and they get the peaceful ones caught between placed in precarious situations.
     
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    Saying the governors or mayors need to get control or he'll intervene is better than a big "we are the world" speech. Regardless anything he woulda said woulda been wrong. "Fine people on both sides" or "minority that ruin it for those doin it right" what's the difference?

    Sorry dude it has nothing to do with supporting Trump, but more to do with these state and city officials giving stand down orders and letting this all happend. Wanna guess what party they're from. Wth did they think was gonna happen. There's nothing wrong with protest, but that's not what is happening.

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    just looking for all the covid nonsense.... Nevermind I'll keep walking
     
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    Three threads down....move along.
     
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    You’re right, a “kumbaya” type speech would not work. That ship has sailed. What we need is moral leadership. Someone who can stand up and say that the tragedy sparking everything was not a one off, but the latest in a long line of minority people dying at the hands of police. Something that cannot and should not be tolerated in 2020. We need to take an honest look at police practices and/or the people who are being hired into the positions and ensure that we as a nation do our damnedest to rebuild the relationship between police and minority communities. We cannot continue to let this happen.

    For all his faults, I do think that something like that would go a long ways. Much farther than “when the looting starts the shooting starts”. Seek to bring together, not divide for perceived political gain.
     
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    Come on you pansy Antifa/Democrat thugs/punks/criminals ... try something now at the Whitehouse/DC ...

    Members of the Utah, Indiana, Tennessee, South Carolina and New Jersey National Guards will join local police and DC Guardsmen tonight, Air Force Gen. Joseph Lengyel, the National Guard Bureau chief, told reporters Tuesday, in addition to a battalion of active-duty military police from the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, North Carolina ― or about 1,500, coming to augment the 1,200 who were on duty Monday night.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...d-to-dc-to-back-up-police-against-protestors/
     

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