Let's discuss Making a Murderer

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  1. BJE80

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this.
     
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    Convicted to life for helping Avery.

    The kid has an IQ barely above retardation and his interrogation and confession was a joke. Then his lawyer allowed him to be interrogated again without anyone there. His story didn't make sense. But he confessed and that is all they went with.

    There is a reason why the prosecution did not use him for the trial of Steven Avery.
     
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    I also want to say that after watching this, no one from Wisconsin can ever make fun of the South for its white trash and dumb rednecks :lol:
     
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    I realized this after the first episode... Except I started thinking of all of the people around us in central MN that sound/look/act just like the people featured.

    It's crazy how similar the father and Steve Avery sound/talk.
     
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    This was clearly portrayed as one sided as well. :biggrin:
     
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    I watched it and believe there was some planting of evidence. Some things they left out were that Avery called the magazine to specifically request the female photographer to come take pics of the van. Also he called her cell 3 times and twice blocked his caller ID when placing those calls. Dassey's original attorney was a attention wanting idiot from the very beginning. He seemed really under qualified and reminded me of the original defense lawyer in My Cousin Vinny


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    LOL. Yep, we have them up North too.
     
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    I too think the nephew got screwed. They really took advantage of him especially his first lawyer and his investigator who had no intention of helping him out. Not sure if he is guilty or not, but he deserves a new trial without a doubt.

    What keeps me wondering if Avery may in fact may be innocent is that for someone of his seemingly low intelligence, he never once slipped up during any of his interrogations or phone calls from prison and indited himself. If anyone of us would be guilty of a crime, going through that many interrogations and recorded phone calls it'd be almost impossible to never slip up once or get your stories crossed....but he never did. Maybe the show left out those phone calls, but that keeps me wondering.
     
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    But they are so much better because they don't say Y'all.
     
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    Right.

    They just have those awful accents.
     
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    Is You's Guys any better lol?
     
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    YES! Yes it is. Much.
     
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    Meh....
     
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    It was a huge mistake.

    But I get what he was trying to do. Since the judge ruled Dassey's confession admissible, he was trying to do best by his client by getting him to write a written confession that would get him out of life. Since the confession was admissible, the chances of getting around the confession in court were slim.
     
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    I agree with this 100%. Interesting series (a bit drawn out for my taste, could have gotten the message across in 5-6 episodes, didn't need 10 hours worth). I don't think the series did anything to prove his innocence, nor did they attempt to... they simply pointed out how anyone with half a brain can see that SOME of the evidence was staged to ensure a conviction and how the entire court system would hear nothing of it to give him a fair trial. His mentally handicapped nephew got shafted so hard by the legal system it is mind blowing.


    The hardest part I can't understand is how the jury can convict someone of murder but NOT mutilating a corpse when the body was found burned, scatttered, etc... How is that possible? Did he kill her then the body just did away with itself? Even the nephew got a guilty on both of those counts, very inconsistent I thought.
     
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    Finished the 2nd and 3rd episodes last night... This is literally the most incredible show/story I have ever seen or heard.

    Absolutely unreal at everything that is happening.
     
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    After reading some of the prosecutions rebuttal to the series I am even further cemented in the he did it crowd. A lot of damning evidence was left out of the Netflix series because it muddies the water on the evidence they showed which is questionable.

    The creepiest fact that they spun is the fact that his cat "incident" wasn't a drunk stupid mistake of throwing a cat over top of a fire. He soaked it in gas and intentionally set it on fire. That's beyond creepy.

    I still think the key was planted, and also think the blood vial having a needle stick proves the blood may have been staged too.... But I don't think that proves his innocence. I think it proves the cops were willing to do anything necessary to ensure his guilty verdict


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